All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2
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Just something I meant to mention on how hard we look at games etc on tv. On Aotearoa Rugby the other night, Bryn Hall and Jame Parson were talking about the call of "play 2" that was used when a cutout pass was made leading into Jordies's try, I never heard it etc, but shows what we can miss. Was interesting after they were talking the week before on how much they rely on comms etc the wek before, how there is normally a call whenever people are changing angles , coming up in support etc. I know you hear that some players like BB are pretty good at letting players in front know where gaps etc are in back field.
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@Dan54 re the cattle, yeah nah. The average of the South African squad is 30, and that is brought down by some of the younger guys who aren't in the top side. So on average those guys were playing U20s in 2012/2013. We were reasonable at U20 level back then.
We have the cattle, we've just used them really poorly in the last couple of years. Poor selection, management, coaching and tactics. In a couple of years time our lack of youth talent may bite, but not yet. -
@reprobate said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Dan54 re the cattle, yeah nah. The average of the South African squad is 30, and that is brought down by some of the younger guys who aren't in the top side. So on average those guys were playing U20s in 2012/2013. We were reasonable at U20 level back then.
We have the cattle, we've just used them really poorly in the last couple of years. Poor selection, management, coaching and tactics. In a couple of years time our lack of youth talent may bite, but not yet.Did we?
Here are the 2012 and 2013 squads.
Savea is the only World XV player in there, plus Scott of the Barretts, Pat T, and Ofa. The rest of the higher quality players are already overseas (Taufua, Proctor, West, Hall, Hemopo), representing someone else (Heenan, I think?), or weren't that good anyway (Hickey, Marty McKenzie).
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So how do we se this game playing out, now that we have the teams? What will the AB's do differently to last week? Some questions:
- will we kick from hand more for territory (using RM's raking boot
) - will RM play deeper than D-Mac did to counter the expected rush D? I know everyone loved DMac playing so flat, but that won't be so easy this week
- will we attack their lineout or defend the expected resulting mauls?
- are the subs pre-planned (Vaa'i on for Friz with SB to blindside? BB to 10
, Sami on for a solid 25 at least?), and will we see them early in the 2nd half? - looking forward to seeing how the scrum holds up this week
- will we show some patience and be prepared to attack through multiple phases, or will we resort to box kicking the minute we don't breach the ad-line?
- I for one hope we are patient, and put the chip kick and box kick away in the cupboard. Would love to more sniping from ASmith too, though maybe that needs to be kept in the dry'ish powder draw for a bit
- will we kick from hand more for territory (using RM's raking boot
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@voodoo other than keeping our powder dry, we will go some ways to winning this if we play similar to Joberg last year.
Richie varied his depth but importantly gave his outsides space to work with. The pick n go game was aggressive (not just going through the motions). Ardie was active in attack. We kept the ball alive to counter their very organised defence.
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@ACT-Crusader Might be a big difference between a hard JoBurg track last year and a heavy Mt Smart ground this year.
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@Dan54 I don't think we have the right to win everything, I just think the way this coaching team has managed things for the past 4 years and them part of prior has certainly not done things as well as they should have (results show they haven't got alot right) sure the last 12 months things look to be moving a bit more in the right way, but imo seems alot of damage to players psyche and by the same token opposition have gained that little hit of belief too.
I just hope tomorrow is a cracker.
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@Steve said in Argentina v All Blacks:
As predicted.....DMAC jettisoned. Fozzie gonna Foz.
After being an earlier critic of DM at 10 and then grudgingly but quickly coming around to him at 10 this year I'd say I'm not upset but ...
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader Might be a big difference between a hard JoBurg track last year and a heavy Mt Smart ground this year.
I was hearing it should be a dry deck and decent weather for Auckland tomorrow.
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@BerniesCorner said in Argentina v All Blacks:
I've got no problem that RM is starting but in my mind would have been logical to have DMac in the 23 if things go pear shaped. He's a brilliant sub too cos of his versatility
In the end I think that DM will be the mix. But Fozz loves to fuck around with stupid tweaks. Case in point was playing JB at 15 vs Scotland instead of 12, robbing him of test level reps there and blocking an opportunity for someone else to audition as a potential 15 option
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader Might be a big difference between a hard JoBurg track last year and a heavy Mt Smart ground this year.
I was hearing it should be a dry deck and decent weather for Auckland tomorrow.
At our Mt. Smart fortress, where we have never lost!
I fear we will lose at least two records there tomorrow, though.
The opposition will score points against us.
They will keep us to less than 100.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@ACT-Crusader Might be a big difference between a hard JoBurg track last year and a heavy Mt Smart ground this year.
I was hearing it should be a dry deck and decent weather for Auckland tomorrow.
Weather over the last few days has been mostly fine,windy and cool. Lots of cloud and a few showers around, but no significant rain is forecast. But this is Auckland in 2023 we are talking about, rain is never far away
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