All Blacks 2023
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2023:
The eye test, will always be the best way of rating players with the nature of the way rugby works.
..and the eye test was that Shannon has been a lazy shit this year. The bonus is it's backed up by statistics
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2023:
If Ardie were to be injured who else would be a closer like for like replacement than Sotutu (recognising that no one would be that close to Ardie)?
It's a good point. They aren't identical styles but they are playmakers from no 8. It's almost like back in the early 90's talking about constructive and destructive 7's.
But Sotutu wasn't good enough to be in the mix this year
Ardie will likely be the first choice 8 but the balance of the trio really changes if he picks up an injury
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No, it's just in context with the rest of the thread.
Cully made a retarded half argument using stats that conveniently left out one of his favourite players. I pointed that out using the same stats.
Some people then started talking about people relying only on stats.. which is a strawman because no does that, even a simpleton like Cully -
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
No, it's just in context with the rest of the thread.
Cully made a retarded half argument using stats that conveniently left out one of his favourite players. I pointed that out using the same stats.
Some people then started talking about people relying only on stats.. which is a strawman because no does that, even a simpleton like CullyDidn't Cully in his article only focus on No 8 though before he hit his word limit?
From memory (and I'm not going to check) he was talking about Hoskins and compared others at 8? -
Sure. He did make a general statement about all AB forwards too.
It'd be an interesting argument to drop an number 8 for that reason and not drop a blindside for being even worse
But more importantly he's a twat
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You can squeeze a bit of information out of the official match packs
For instance the Final Match Pack has the overall stats plus team breakdowns for the Chiefs and Crusaders. If you are, for instance, looking up a specific Highlander you have to use the match pack from the Highlanders last game
I wasn't aware these existed until they turned up in a google search recently
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The formatting, the black "torn" second on the bottom wasn't used last year....so not just an old post but an actual mistake if they are last years figures
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2023:
The numbers are quite low.. I worked it out. It was the numbers at the end of round four
Sotutu was the form No. 8 pre Easter. Had better of Jacobson in the April encounter. Can't remember when his 'All Black' rest was taken.
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I checked that too. It was Hamish McKay. He was just making the point that Sotutu is a good player and he predicts he will be back next year. He compared him to Zinzan in the early 90's
I don't think he was being deliberately misleading with the image
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2023:
If you ask a Saffer why they rated Reado so highly, it wasn't because of his hard shoulders! There needs to be some variety.
But he did have hard shoulders. Friggen smashed people at times.
