All Blacks 2023
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bovidae I reckon he will be. Fozzie happily picked two rookies last year.
My main question mark is Christie or Weber?
Is Folau out of the equation?
I reckon it will be the hardest decision. I hope Roigard because he’s an abrasive type and whilst not the finished product, he has all the ingredients. But taking a rookie has some risk.
That's why you select Roigard and give him some tests before the RWC. Need to see if he can handle test match footy. See NMS 2015.
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@KiwiMurph Nehe is a bit of an outlier though. Plus wing and halfback are very different propositions when going into a RWC given how the majority of knock out footy is played. Pressure on all players to perform but the halfbacks role is where you need a bit of nous and experience given so much relies on them.
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@ACT-Crusader Folau only has 2 tests so far anyway and Roigard started all year for Canes and played well in a knockout game vs Brumbies.
As a Blues fan Christie scares the hell out of me so they are going to have to go with someone.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
On locks - was really impressed with Lord last week. Really hope he can stay injury free, was like a young Brodie!
Lord will be a Chiefs starter next season but I'd be surprised if he makes the RWC squad if all locks are fit. Next year though...
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
On locks - was really impressed with Lord last week. Really hope he can stay injury free, was like a young Brodie!
Lord will be a Chiefs starter next season but I'd be surprised if he makes the RWC squad if all locks are fit. Next year though...
I think he's already better than Tupou Vaa'i and has a far higher ceiling. If he can stay injury free over the next few weeks, I would much rather see him selected for the RWC than Vaa'i.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
On locks - was really impressed with Lord last week. Really hope he can stay injury free, was like a young Brodie!
Lord will be a Chiefs starter next season but I'd be surprised if he makes the RWC squad if all locks are fit. Next year though...
I can see us with 5 locks, with Barrett covering 6.
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@friedrugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kiwiwomble I think it is hilairous that we got dumped out the World Cup four years ago, largely because we picked a lock on the blindside (S Barrett) and a first five at fullback (B Barrett) and four years later we look set to do the same thing all over again expecting a different outcome.
I agree 100%.
It has to be Jordan or Stevenson at FB.
We can’t repeat the mistakes of 2019.
Beaudy doesn’t score tries anymore and we can’t have an Allblack fullback who doesn’t score tries.
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@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
We can’t repeat the mistakes of 2019.
Or even, perhaps, the mistakes of '99 when we played a Fullback in the midfield...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
We can’t repeat the mistakes of 2019.
Or even, perhaps, the mistakes of '99 when we played a Fullback in the midfield...
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
We can’t repeat the mistakes of 2019.
Or even, perhaps, the mistakes of '99 when we played a Fullback in the midfield...
Broke my fucking heart......
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@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
Broke my fucking heart......
You don't know what pain is. I was in Cardiff for the 2007 QF.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
Broke my fucking heart......
You don't know what pain is. I was in Cardiff for the 2007 QF.
I have a vague memory of being there as well, though I’m still hoping it’s a dream.
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@scribe said in All Blacks 2023:
I have a vague memory of being there as well, though I’m still hoping it’s a dream.
"vague memory" ?
You lucky bastard.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
Broke my fucking heart......
You don't know what pain is. I was in Cardiff for the 2007 QF.
Barnes didn't see one penalty infringement from France in the last 50 odd minutes in that game.
Truly remarkable given how pedantic he has gone on to become.
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@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
Broke my fucking heart......
You don't know what pain is. I was in Cardiff for the 2007 QF.
Barnes didn't see one penalty infringement from France in the last 50 odd minutes in that game.
Truly remarkable given how pedantic he has gone on to become.
I don't think he has become pedantic. He's actually quite a good ref now (except he saves up errors for one big brain fart decision a game).
He simply wasn't ready to ref a game of that magnitude at the time and he's not to blame for his selection.
His main trait that he has never really fixed is that he gets in the way of play quite a bit. Whether that is simple positioning or poor 'feel' for the game I'm not sure but he really does seem to get into tangles more than others. -
@Victor-Meldrew Twickenham 99 was like a funeral procession back to the train...
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:
@Steve said in All Blacks 2023:
Broke my fucking heart......
You don't know what pain is. I was in Cardiff for the 2007 QF.
me too, had had a few great nights in cardiff after AB's games....not that night, copped a bit of flak from the locals too which was a surprise
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bovidae I reckon he will be. Fozzie happily picked two rookies last year.
My main question mark is Christie or Weber?
Is Folau out of the equation?
I reckon it will be the hardest decision. I hope Roigard because he’s an abrasive type and whilst not the finished product, he has all the ingredients. But taking a rookie has some risk.
Who knows - but, can't really see how he makes it.
He fell behind Christie last year and by the end of the EOYT Christie seemed to have fallen behind TJ (at least).
This year, Roigard has looked made for test rugby, so I want him. Folau has been caught behind Smith, and has had to make a lot of play himself - so less chance to impress as a test halfback.
If Fozzie picks Roigard and Folau, he'd have 40 minutes of test experience between them. Doesn't seem a good idea.
I guess if last year is a guide, Christie will get picked over Weber - so AS, FC, CR - but, I wouldn't put the house on it!
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@Chris-B in fairness he fell behind christie because he was injured, if we want someone that plays like a young smith (not quite as good) then his protege is what you want
in saying that roigard does look the goods
