All Blacks 2023
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@Victor-Meldrew Maybe in the opinion of many - but, I told y'all this time last year that he wasn't test ready - making too many errors.
This year he's not making anything like the same number of errors. I'd pick him - don't know whether Fozzie will.
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Remember Piutau still got selected for the ABs in 2015 and played multiple tests in 2015 - he just didn't make the RWC squad. I would have the same approach with Leicester and give him say 2 tests and then see how that stacks up with other contenders when naming RWC squad.
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@KiwiMurph Yeah - pick the best 36 players for what you want to do. Then prune it down to the best 33. For now, I have him in my 36.
If we're going to be truly professional, we can't be holding grudges about what people have chosen for next year. Leicester is leaving the Crusaders, but he's been excellent for them.
Don't disagree about choosing the guy who is staying in otherwise 50-50 call, but those should be very few and far between in these days when players are running around with trackers strapped to their backs.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:
I find it really weird how some posters here find his departure a reason for not selecting him
I don't see how it's weird, especially when it appears to be something selectors also take into account.
Who knows though, maybe Foster has had a change in attitude and couldn't give two hoots about anything after this year.
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So we spent a couple of years yelling at Fozzie to put JB into 12, and when he finally does, his Super form drops off to the point that we are quietly pushing for him to be replaced again?
I have watched sweet f-all super rugby this year, but I have that horrible feeling again with us going into a RWC with an unsettled lineup. Other than 9/10, and many don’t think 10 is a lock, the backs are all up in the air still. Does BB play, is RI at 13, is there a place for DH, is WJ deserving of a spot, can we fit LF in, what about ML? Yuck.
In the forwards maybe it’s more settled, tight 5 at least. Loose combo maybe less so but a SB/SC/AS seems fairly likely from where I sit
I hate this uncertainty!
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@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
So we spent a couple of years yelling at Fozzie to put JB into 12, and when he finally does, his Super form drops off to the point that we are quietly pushing for him to be replaced again?
I think we have to back him for the opening tests.
Also, Cane will get physically dominated by the top teams, again, so I really hope Foster can see past him. Our ruck ball was so much better with Papalii starting.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2023:
@KiwiMurph there will at least three NZ teams NOT in the final. ABs will have access to them.
Open training session for ABs been announced at Mt Maunganui on the Friday before the Super final
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@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
Does BB play, is RI at 13, is there a place for DH, is WJ deserving of a spot, can we fit LF in, what about ML? Yuck.
He'll probably be our starting fullback. Definitely. Yes. Definitely. Yes. Who is ML?
I reckon it's pretty settled, except injuries are - mainly temporarily - throwing a spanner in the works.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
Who is ML?
Cam Roigard.
Thank goodness. I thought an aged Michael Lynagh was about change countries and get rolled out.
Jordie might not have shown much but given his form hasn’t fallen off a cliff and his surname is Barrett I think he’s a shoe in to start at 12.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
Who is ML?
Cam Roigard.
Yes.
I was just having a go at george posting to see how it went
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2023:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
Who is ML?
Cam Roigard.
Yes.
I was just having a go at george posting to see how it went
We no.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2023:
I'd pick him - don't know whether Fozzie will.
He might do if he thinks it worthwhile in the short-term and is less interested in building for the future. I think @KiwiMurph view is pretty much spot-on.
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
I think we have to back him for the opening tests.
Those Tests are going to be absolutely critical with minimal time to settle on playing combinations.
Bit of a mess really.
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@Bones care to expand?
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Exactly what I meant Dan!
ABxv is a team selected by the AB selectors as part of a their overall strategy.
I doubt they would pick a player for that side who they didn’t think they would be able to pick the next level up or if they were tied to another country (which is where the ambiguity comes from)
It’s the best indicator we have that they would select him if they wanted too
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2023:
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
So we spent a couple of years yelling at Fozzie to put JB into 12, and when he finally does, his Super form drops off to the point that we are quietly pushing for him to be replaced again?
I think we have to back him for the opening tests.
Also, Cane will get physically dominated by the top teams, again, so I really hope Foster can see past him. Our ruck ball was so much better with Papalii starting.
Evidence on this years' SR is that statement is out of date.
