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    george33
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    @Chris Rennie yes

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    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris Rennie yes

    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris Rennie yes

    So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

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    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Apologies for not writing in crayon.

    We need to be innovative to unlock defences at test level and that’s a special area of his.
    I don’t see similar innovation in unlocking defences from Holland or the Crusaders.

    Jason Holland isn't a great head coach. But he has proven in the past to be a very competent attack coach. Every now and then you can see the Hurricanes come up with some very innovative attacking plays from set piece. As long as he is kept away from selection, he should be good.

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    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris Rennie yes

    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris Rennie yes

    So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

    I don’t think so but it is hard to tell sometimes with one word posts.

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    @Crucial said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris Rennie yes

    @george33 said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris Rennie yes

    So you are saying Schmidt has been told he is the new AB coach ?

    I don’t think so but it is hard to tell sometimes with one word posts.

    Yep I am totally confused now.

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    taniwharugby
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    @Chris and me...although TBF, in this thread who the fuck knows what's going on...we may as well be NZR HQ!

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    @taniwharugby said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Chris and me...although TBF, in this thread who the fuck knows what's going on...we may as well be NZR HQ!

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    @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

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    @ARHS said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

    Now I'm confused. I thought people were saying Schmidt doesn't want it?
    He does seem loyal to Foster.
    But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

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    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

    It's because of commercial sensitivity/confidentiality issues - just like every multi-million dollar business on planet Earth.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

    It's because of commercial sensitivity/confidentiality issues - just like every multi-million dollar business on planet Earth.

    Well at least we knew how many were applying in 2019/2020

    Nov 5, 2019  /  Sport

    NZR only interviewing Kiwi coaches for All Blacks job

    NZR only interviewing Kiwi coaches for All Blacks job

    The next All Black coach will not be a foreigner, according to New Zealand Rugby chairman Brent Impey.

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    @nostrildamus

    That's just setting out the policy - which is v. different to commercial/personal issues & details.

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    Seems to me that there are huge implications for whatever choice of coaching team is made. It is not just the head coach in or out of a job. So good reason to have confidentiality and sensitivity for the good of all candidates until a decision is made.

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    Lots of trolling going on here, it's rather amusing

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    @kiwi_expat said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @mariner4life

    I'd like those claiming Joseph is the better coach to at least attempt to back it up with some evidence - they can't.
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    I would suggest none of us know who the best coach is, we haven't been coached by them, and to be honest, from what I have read on posts, most are looking at results only. Not a lot seem to think coaching at different levels requires usually different skills, from what I have seen most have got their knowledge from reading opinions of other posters or so called press.

    I have to say I find it hard to disagree with Mariner4life about how arrogant some so called AB supporters appear to be, an awful lot seem to know a lot more about requirements of top level coaches than the people actually talking to and involved in the process of appointing coaches, a lot seem to get an awful lot of knowledge sitting on their arses in whatever part of the world they are in!

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    probably better suited for the Aussie Rugby thread but its about coaches so here goes

    the head coaches of my club went to an evening with eddie jones in melbourne the other night, he laid out his plans for the wallabies, "cleaning house" "im giving them all targets and if they dont meet them theyre out" "we're not fit enough" "we give up too easily"....all the stuff you expect to hear

    what was interesting, apparently he's reached out to hansen to bring him on board in some sort of mentoring role but once he's in the building the job title doesn;t really matter. Hansen apparently told him no one from NZR has reached out too him since he left pretty much, he's sitting around the house looking for something to do and so was quite keen

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    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @ARHS said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Victor-Meldrew but it's only Thursday in Wales? Who is Robinson? But seriously, I hope Joe Schmidt puts his name forward.

    Now I'm confused. I thought people were saying Schmidt doesn't want it?
    He does seem loyal to Foster.
    But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

    Why do you need to know?

    Flagging to future prospectiv employers who else has turned you down in the past isn't something you would do so why is rugby different?

    Aside from that it just feeds the media and boards like this with ammo to make their own judgements without the facts.

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    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    @nostrildamus said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    But why can't we know who the candidates are? Are they precious wallflowers? Is it commercially dangerous (to their current or potential roles) to know who is applying?

    It's because of commercial sensitivity/confidentiality issues - just like every multi-million dollar business on planet Earth.

    Well at least we knew how many were applying in 2019/2020

    Nov 5, 2019  /  Sport

    NZR only interviewing Kiwi coaches for All Blacks job

    NZR only interviewing Kiwi coaches for All Blacks job

    The next All Black coach will not be a foreigner, according to New Zealand Rugby chairman Brent Impey.

    Blocking out foreigners and Hansen giving what looks like a Hitler salute. Coincidence?

    In all seriousness, what foreigners would have been considered? What a complete nothing statement.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster, Robertson etc:

    Hansen apparently told him no one from NZR has reached out too him since he left pretty much, he's sitting around the house looking for something to do and so was quite keen

    If that's true it's bloody appalling that a 2-times RWC winning coach wants to help out and he's been ignored when he has something to offer. Just look at the impact that Wayne Smith has had on the Black Ferns and woman' rugby.

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    Kiwiwomble
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    @Victor-Meldrew would be a bit of a "fuck you" to fozzie too, i thought hansen has supported him as his successor

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