All Blacks 2022
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@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@Windows97 said in All Blacks 2022:
Now he's no longer the starting first 5 and goalkicker.
Their hardly going to change the kicker just because he comes back. Kicking is typically about consistency, might as well use the guy who's able to achieve that.
I'm not saying who should or shouldn't kick goals, or who should or shouldn't be in the team, all I'm trying to say is that his decline from being our first choice #10 and goal kicker to an almost bit player now is, in my mind - sad.
He's the starting 15. Not sure I should feel sad for an All Black in the top XV.
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Yeah, they're revisiting the duel playmaker tactic, and Beauden has played a lot more 15 so it makes sense to put him at the back. It failed at the last RWC as Mo'unga was too green, but in theory it can give us a lot of options on attack, especially with Jordie slotting in at 12 as well. I'm pretty excited about our backline at the moment.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2022:
Yeah, they're revisiting the duel playmaker tactic, and Beauden has played a lot more 15 so it makes sense to put him at the back. It failed at the last RWC as Mo'unga was too green, but in theory it can give us a lot of options on attack, especially with Jordie slotting in at 12 as well. I'm pretty excited about our backline at the moment.
It used to be a duel playmaker for sure, with Beaudy stepping in too much. Hopefully that's sorted and they'll share the role better as dual playmakers.
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@Machpants And it's not just the dual playmakers as much as kicking options, and thats where it works well with Havili or Jordie at 12, with BB or JB at 15, means you can actually play and kick from wider which stops defence being too settled. If you watch Crusaders Havili plays 2nd playmaker well, and like Jordie can first reciever and run ball up and allow RMo to have space, or if they set up ball get hopefully quick 2nd phase ball to play with.
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I think when Brodie comes back , scooter plays 6 , Akira is on the bench and frizzle misses out .
7 is the bigger headache , I think dalton is going to move ahead of cane in value further, particularly with ability to carry over the gainline as well as do the defensive stuff .
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wales:
I think when Brodie comes back , scooter plays 6 , Akira is on the bench and frizzle misses out .
7 is the bigger headache , I think dalton is going to move ahead of cane in value further, particularly with ability to carry over the gainline as well as do the defensive stuff .
Shows what a bit of consistent game time in the right position can do for standout super rugby players in top teams might also be something to consider.
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@kiwiinmelb serious question, has Brodie outplayed Scott at lock?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb serious question, has Brodie outplayed Scott at lock?
Would you rather have Rettalick in the 23 or Frizzell..
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@Bovidae Every other top test nation is playing a lock at 6, S.Barrett offers everything we need there and is necessary to complete an otherwise incomplete backrow carrying 2 opensides (Cane+Savea) which Foster is welded to.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2022:
After watching the Welsh test again, SB could do everything that Frizell did as a 6. I would hope that our blindside flanker is more effective when carrying the ball.
Everything and more. Starting SB at 6 would allow two loosies on the bench too - Akira and Harmon.
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@kiwi_expat Wow didn't know that.
And I used to think that Ireland France Wales Scotland and Argentina had gone the more the other way like NZ. And come to think of it doesn't South Africa use Kwagga and Aussie Samu and England Willis off the bench?
Actually Woki and Beirne are more like loosies playing at lock. How have their teams gone when adopting the opposing philosophy?
Really only England then?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wales:
I think when Brodie comes back , scooter plays 6 , Akira is on the bench and frizzle misses out .
7 is the bigger headache , I think dalton is going to move ahead of cane in value further, particularly with ability to carry over the gainline as well as do the defensive stuff .Shows what a bit of consistent game time in the right position can do for standout super rugby players in top teams might also be something to consider.
Ok it seems the consensus is yes.
My view is different, SB is better at lock than at 6. Whether that means he shouldn't move to 6 to fix somewhere else, I don't know. He's actually not that much bigger than Shannon or Akira. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wales:I think when Brodie comes back , scooter plays 6 , Akira is on the bench and frizzle misses out .
7 is the bigger headache , I think dalton is going to move ahead of cane in value further, particularly with ability to carry over the gainline as well as do the defensive stuff .Shows what a bit of consistent game time in the right position can do for standout super rugby players in top teams might also be something to consider.
Ok it seems the consensus is yes.
My view is different, SB is better at lock than at 6. Whether that means he shouldn't move to 6 to fix somewhere else, I don't know. He's actually not that much bigger than Shannon or Akira.My post was referring to DP.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wales:I think when Brodie comes back , scooter plays 6 , Akira is on the bench and frizzle misses out .
7 is the bigger headache , I think dalton is going to move ahead of cane in value further, particularly with ability to carry over the gainline as well as do the defensive stuff .Shows what a bit of consistent game time in the right position can do for standout super rugby players in top teams might also be something to consider.
Ok it seems the consensus is yes.
My view is different, SB is better at lock than at 6. Whether that means he shouldn't move to 6 to fix somewhere else, I don't know. He's actually not that much bigger than Shannon or Akira.My post was referring to DP.
I'm sorry I was replying to another post I thought and it was moved to this thread. Maybe I replied to the wrong post or the connection got mixed up in the move.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2022:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2022:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wales:I think when Brodie comes back , scooter plays 6 , Akira is on the bench and frizzle misses out .
7 is the bigger headache , I think dalton is going to move ahead of cane in value further, particularly with ability to carry over the gainline as well as do the defensive stuff .Shows what a bit of consistent game time in the right position can do for standout super rugby players in top teams might also be something to consider.
Ok it seems the consensus is yes.
My view is different, SB is better at lock than at 6. Whether that means he shouldn't move to 6 to fix somewhere else, I don't know. He's actually not that much bigger than Shannon or Akira.My post was referring to DP.
I'm sorry I was replying to another post I thought and it was moved to this thread. Maybe I replied to the wrong post or the connection got mixed up in the move.
Who needs 'Soap' when they have the Fern!
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2022:
What to make of Jordan's "inner ear issue"? Possible concussion symptoms?
If my memory serves me right, a few seasons ago he had the same issue. Kept him out for quite a while. Back then they thought it was concussion at first but later realised it was 'inner ear'.
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@Crazy-Horse Same as Ben Smith, isn't it?
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From personal experience, coz it's all about me me me, I had an inner ear inflammation 10 or 12 years ago.
I suspect there are degrees of these things, but this hit me out of the blue, was the most unrelentingly unpleasant experience (imagine the most intense dizzy spell from the worst hungover of your darkest nightmare), and took months to fully resolve.
Acute vestibular neuronitis was the doctorism used.
No specific cause, but likely result of irritation from cold or flu.
I just wish him well.
