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    replied to canefan on last edited by MiketheSnow
    #3972

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

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    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    They right in the conversation for sure

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    Both very good midfield combos but what this highlights for me is that such combos are quite rare. You often get a great inside centre OR a great outside centre but rarely both at the same time for any length of time.

    Carling and Guscott for England is probably the only one of ours I could name. We had Greenwood for a number of years who was great but the 12 was either a rotating doorway or Tindall - solid but no world beater.

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    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Some older guys would put the Bill Osborne/Bruce Robertson combination as a serious alternative to any other one offered.

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to MiketheSnow on last edited by
    #3976

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    It's not even close, Nonu's skills blow Little's out of the water, Smith easily matches Bunce.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Higgins on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #3977

    @Higgins said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Some older guys would put the Bill Osborne/Bruce Robertson combination as a serious alternative to any other one offered.

    Yep. They were great, but I think the Conrad/Ma'a combo was a stronger one.

    Bruce Robertson was similar to Conrad but probably a bit better (particularly on attack), but Ma'a is fair bit ahead of Bill Osborne. And that's no reflection on Conrad or Bill - far from it.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @Bones said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    It's not even close, Nonu's skills blow Little's out of the water, Smith easily matches Bunce.

    Hmmm

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @MiketheSnow

    Bunce was great but there was real guile to Ma'a's play which Bunce didn't have so much

    If you check out the last minute Ireland win a few years back there's a point where the ball is passed from the RHS and is bobbling towards Nonu. Rather than rush up, he waits for the ball to come to him which confuses the defence, then runs a 45 degree angle, feigns a pass, straightens up slightly, ties up 3 defenders and two passes later Crotty scores.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow

    Bunce was great but there was real guile to Ma'a's play which Bunce didn't have so much

    If you check out the last minute Ireland win a few years back there's a point where the ball is passed from the RHS and is bobbling towards Nonu. Rather than rush up, he waits for the ball to come to him which confuses the defence, then runs a 45 degree angle, feigns a pass, straightens up slightly, ties up 3 defenders and two passes later Crotty scores.

    So Nonu and Bunce it is

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    @MiketheSnow

    If I was a Time Lord, Nonu & Bruce Robertson. Robertson at his best

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    replied to MiketheSnow on last edited by
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    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    It's not even close, Nonu's skills blow Little's out of the water, Smith easily matches Bunce.

    Hmmm

    Like I said, easily.

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    @Bones said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    It's not even close, Nonu's skills blow Little's out of the water, Smith easily matches Bunce.

    Ooof, I'll give you Nonu over Walter, but I thought Bunce was special. I have a lot of time for Smith, don't get me wrong. But Bunce just had something extra.

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    @voodoo said in Foster:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    It's not even close, Nonu's skills blow Little's out of the water, Smith easily matches Bunce.

    Ooof, I'll give you Nonu over Walter, but I thought Bunce was special. I have a lot of time for Smith, don't get me wrong. But Bunce just had something extra.

    Kinda like Smith had something extra.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    #3985

    Whichever way you lean, this is a much better use of a thread than going around in circles talking about bloody Foster and Robertson

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  • BonesB Online
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    replied to voodoo on last edited by
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    @voodoo said in Foster:

    Whichever way you lean, this is a much better use of a thread than going around in circles talking about bloody Foster and Robertson

    Foster would've selected Little and Smith.

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  • TimT Away
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    #3987

    John Schuster was a very good 12.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to voodoo on last edited by Victor Meldrew
    #3988

    @voodoo said in Foster:

    Whichever way you lean, this is a much better use of a thread than going around in circles talking about bloody Foster and Robertson

    Wasn't Foster Backs coach when Nonu really developed after 2011 from being a potentially great 12 into arguably the best in Black ever? 🎣

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow

    If I was a Time Lord, Nonu & Bruce Robertson. Robertson at his best

    Based on those 'highlights', still Bunce for me

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @Bones said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @Bones said in Foster:

    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    @canefan said in Foster:

    @MN5 said in Foster:

    Nonu is as great as DC and McCaw and I’ll fight anyone who claims otherwise

    He and Smith are the greatest midfield pair to wear the AB jersey

    Nope

    Bunce and Little for me

    I know it's the wrong way round but if reads better 😉

    It's not even close, Nonu's skills blow Little's out of the water, Smith easily matches Bunce.

    Hmmm

    Like I said, easily.

    Great tune

    Great defensive centre
    Great at putting himself outside the defender to receive the pass, often the scoring pass
    Great finisher

    Would still have Bunce

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @MiketheSnow said in Foster:

    Based on those 'highlights', still Bunce for me

    No highlights reel for Robertson sadly, just a few extended Test highlights.

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