Japan v All Blacks
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@Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in Japan v All Blacks:
we not seeing the indivudual skill levels that I believe we did in the late 90s-early 2000s when we seemed to watch wonderful flowing games at test level.
Part of the problem, IMO, is that defensive players have become so efficient at jackling that the excellent mini-breaks that would have triggered thar flowing rugby, now often result in the player being isolated and conceding a penalty. Less risk = less ambition.
Case in point the wallabies just ran a beautiful play that resulted in a turnover because the attacking players were all in motion so the clean out was a microsecond late.
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@Crucial just wonder if not having a kicking 12 outside him changes his mindset a bit. Didn't really take on the line and perhaps the defence took out chip and grubber options. So more kick and hope for an error rather than put his 12 under pressure? But I would still hope to see more high bombs at a targeted defender and kicks hitting grass with roll on to trouble the defender.
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@ARHS said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Chris Dmac kicked well from hand in Npc landing ball in gaps regularly. Perhaps it was a work on for him.
maybe that is why he has been sent back to the AB XV he is not kicking to the brainless AB tactics anymore.
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@Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:
Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.
He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!
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@taniwharugby said in Japan v All Blacks:
Coles and Cane out, heading home.
Cane musn't have realised he'd fractured his cheekbone until after the match.
Harmon has had a bumper year. Good Super, really good Maori and now he's with the ABs.
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@taniwharugby said in Japan v All Blacks:
Coles and Cane out, heading home.
Dalton Papalii should get his chance now.
Hope Aumua gets some game time. Otherwise he would be better off with the AB15.
Coles might have one year left in him (hope so as the Canes still need him). But it looks like he is close to times up now.
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@Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:
WTF is it with Mounga and his kicking game? Some games he looks a million bucks and others he looks like a twenty cent piece being kicked into the gutter.
Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.
That shit kicking was what gave Japan the ability to be good. Why is a player like Mounga not seeing that on the field?It's frightening we haven't had a 10 since 2015 who can launch a punt into the stratosphere to put us in a good position or get us out of a shit position. If that 10 fell over we had 4 guys lined up who could.
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@ARHS said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Chris Dmac kicked well from hand in Npc landing ball in gaps regularly. Perhaps it was a work on for him.
DMac has good vision on kicking from hand. His problem is sometimes execution, not the decision on where/when to kick.
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So SW is out, SC now out, BBBR out, DC out, Ardie for captain? BB?
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@KiwiMurph said in Japan v All Blacks:
Harmon would be my pick
Did you not read the article @taniwharugby posted?
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@Joans-Town-Jones SW as in Sam Whitelock? He isn't out. He's joined the squad, this week.
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@Stargazer said in Japan v All Blacks:
@Joans-Town-Jones SW as in Sam Whitelock? He isn't out. He's joined the squad, this week.
I thought he was still home. So SW over Ardie?
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From the link @taniwharugby posted, for people who can't be bothered to click on the link:
The All Blacks coach said Cane had suffered a fractured cheekbone in the match at National Stadium, while veteran hooker Coles has succumbed to a calf injury which had seen him a late scratching from Saturday’s test.
Canterbury and Highlanders loose forward Billy Harmon, and Wellington, Hurricanes, and six-test hooker Asafo Aumua – both of whom were part of the All Blacks XV squad – have been called up for the remaining tests against Wales, Scotland and England.
Foster also confirmed lock Patrick Tuipulotu and playmaker Damian McKenzie would rejoin the ABs XV squad, while winger Mark Telea – a late call-up after Leicester Fainga’anuku went home for family reasons – would stay on with the All Blacks as Will Jordan will stay on in New Zealand to get over his inner ear issue. -
@Nepia said in Japan v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph said in Japan v All Blacks:
Harmon would be my pick
Did you not read the article @taniwharugby posted?
Haha in true Fern fashion... no.
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At this stage with this team, I'm just happy they won! forget scorelines and aiming to achieve the perfect performance, if we only win by 1 but keep doing it I'm cheering. The global game and this team is what it is. Next week without being negative I feel we almost even money going in, learn to grind out a win. I'm sick of personally complaining about the same issues so just going accept the facts and support haha!
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@Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:
Coles and Cane gone to injury.
This will be another one of those times where the medical room makes the selections Foster should have made in the first place.
Papalii and Aumua to be "discovered" over the coming weeks.
This is essentially good news. We need Papalii, Aumua and a few others to get used to playing big tests in the likes of Twickenham and Cardiff.
Flogging Australia every year is no barometer of where a team is at anymore.
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