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  • StargazerS Offline
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    replied to Daffy Jaffy on last edited by
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    @Daffy-Jaffy Yeah, I know. Just saw another list on instagram, so posted it. There are more players who already have a gig lined up.

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    Plenty of quality wings and loosies left over but not much depth at all elsewhere.
    Surely Kapeli goes to MP to replace Stowers. Thought Gibson and McCurran would have been in demand.

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    Li actually scored some great tries when he was with us, we have nareki and koroi as those smaller kind of wings so im not sure we need more of the "same"...but he might have been better than some we have

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    Not sure whether anyone picked this up, but former Crusaders strength and conditioning coach Simon Thomas has been appointed as the Head of Performance at the Western Force.

    By the way, this is their coaching group for 2023:

    Head Coach - Simon Cron
    Forwards Coach - Jimmy Duffy (former Connacht assistant coach). He has replaced Paul Tito in that position.
    Backs Coach - ?
    Attack Coach - Mark Ozich
    Defence Coach - Will Eggleston (from Toyota Verblitz, where he worked with Steve Hansen - and Simon Cron)
    Skills Coach - Dylan Parsons

    Western Force Media  /  Oct 6, 2022

    Force enlist the best to head performance

    Force enlist the best to head performance

    The Western Force have appointed Simon Thomas as head of performance on multi-year contract. Widely known as one of the top strength and conditioning directors in the world, Thomas curated his success at the Crusaders. Leading the performance department over five seasons resulting in three Super...

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

    Attack Coach - Mark Ozich

    What a waste. They should loan him to the Magpies for the NPC.

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    @Nepia Yeah, especially after that coaching let-down, this season. I hope he gets a SR coaching gig in NZ, after 2023.

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    @Stargazer what happened with Tito. Was he let go or did he leave

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    @Winger I don't know. The duration of his appointment was never published. His and Ozich's appointments were announced two days apart, last year, and I therefore always assumed that they were signed for the same duration, but maybe not? They've done a bit of a clean-out of their coaching staff, but that doesn't have to mean that he was let go. Maybe just not re-appointed or he has something else line-up.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I would add the following as unlucky -mostly wider squad candidates, or looking elsewhere???

    Fullback: T Robinson, J Trainor, D Wild,
    Wing: H Murray, Ed Fidow (MP?), T Cook-Savage
    Centre: D Rona R Nu'u Lalomilo
    10's: L Cashmore
    9's: L Campbell, R Judd, L Milo-Harris
    Loosies: J Melvin, A Brash, O Haig
    Lock: H Dalzell, H Burr, J Bekhuis, L Hallam-Eames
    Prop: J Lay, R Cobb, P Sheck, S Calder
    Hooker: I Moananu, J O'Reilly, R Jackson

    None of these are hugely unlucky in my view - bar perhaps James O'Reilly
    Noted that JGB, NMS, Tua and Li all signed overseas

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    If anyone needs a solid player and accurate kicker as a reserve 10 then Riley Hohepa is a good option as well.

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    Confirmed Tua at Brumbies

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    replied to ARHS on last edited by Stargazer
    #241

    @ARHS said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

    I would add the following as unlucky -mostly wider squad candidates, or looking elsewhere???

    Fullback: T Robinson, J Trainor, D Wild,
    Wing: H Murray, Ed Fidow (MP?), T Cook-Savage
    Centre: D Rona R Nu'u Lalomilo
    10's: L Cashmore
    9's: L Campbell, R Judd, L Milo-Harris
    Loosies: J Melvin, A Brash, O Haig
    Lock: H Dalzell, H Burr, J Bekhuis, L Hallam-Eames
    Prop: J Lay, R Cobb, P Sheck, S Calder
    Hooker: I Moananu, J O'Reilly, R Jackson

    None of these are hugely unlucky in my view - bar perhaps James O'Reilly

    This list will grow and/or decrease with the Moana Pasifika squad naming.
    Agree with the last sentence, although I expect some won't even feature in a WTG (Wild, for example).
    Some of these players will no doubt play SR in 2023 as there will be injuries.
    I know some of these players already have overseas contracts (MLR/Japan).
    R Jackson is currently in a moonboot.

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    Some injured players are easily forgotten it seems. If Sione Mafileo is over his neck injury MP should pick him up. He would solve one of their biggest problems this year - the scrum.

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:

    know some of these players already have overseas contracts (MLR/Japan).

    Which ones??

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by Winger
    #244

    @Kiwiwomble

    What NZ team plays an Aust team twice. And which team?
    As MP play the FD twice another team must also play an Aussie team twice

    Canes play Chiefs, Blues and MP twice
    MP play Canes, FD and Crusaders twice
    Chiefs play Highlanders, Hurricanes and Crusaders twice
    Blues play Canes Crusaders and Highlanders twice
    Crusaders play MP, Blues and Chiefs twice
    Highlanders play Blues, Chiefs and ? twice

    Results & Fixtures

    Results & Fixtures
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    @Winger Highlanders play the Force twice.

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    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Winger Highlanders play the Force twice.

    Its not a bad idea. Although the NZ team that gets to play an Aussie team twice will have a slight advantage if this is continued into the future. And it might impact on the gate revenue slightly

    edit on 2nd thoughts it makes little difference. Instead of playing MP they play an Aussie side instead

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    @Winger every team not playing every other team the same number of times definitely undermines the comp...but has been that way for ages, like years we've had to play the crusaders twice like the chief will do next year

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:

    @Winger every team not playing every other team the same number of times definitely undermines the comp...but has been that way for ages, like years we've had to play the crusaders twice like the chief will do next year

    it doesn't really. The NRL has it. The AFL has it. They have shit teams, they have good teams. Sometimes you get a good draw. Sometimes you get a tough draw. And your draw may end up harder or easier than it looked at the start of the season as teams are often better/worse than expectation.

    In the end the best team wins the comp. Draw "inequalities" are generally the domain of losing fans.

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