Super Rugby 2023
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:
I think you're missing the point. A draft could potentially force players to play for a franchise they don't really want to play for, because they prefer playing for their home (or another) franchise. This could even be the case if the franchise that developed him (or that other franchise) does want to sign him. The Highlanders players you are referring to didn't go because they were forced to, although sometimes circumstances played a role, such as being overlooked by their home franchise or not getting enough game time.
im not missing it, i addressed it, none of the drafts around the world im aware of force players to go somewhere they dont want too...it might be the only offer on the table and so the payer has to choose....a development contract at home or for start somewhere less desirable, if a players home union doesn't have a spot to offer then its not really an option is it
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@Machpants said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2023:
@nzzp i have to admit im not sure how relevant that is, all NFL/NBL...hell, any america sports and any football players probably gets paid more than most rugby players, i dont see it as a money thing...theyre already going around the country, teams and agents are already doing deals, players are released early and given shots elsewhere...we're just talking about actually showing all that in the build up to a season to build some hype in a way other than jamming in 9's tournament that the best players didn't play in because they didn't want to get injured
The key point, seven outside the money, is American teams don't develop their own players. They pick them from college. So every franchise would drop their academy if there was a draft, why waste money on that?
This is really very similar to Ozzie boss trying to get a bigger slice of the NZR money pie, he's trying to get access to better players from over here
NFL / NBA is the wrong place to be looking when it comes implementing a draft - much better to be looking at the AFL where kids are drafted out of school or junior club footy that has no affiliation to the senior AFL club. As @Kiwiwomble said, there are some limitations, as well as the father-son rule, which promotes dynastic recruitment and could be something the Super Rugby franchises could do in due course. The AFL draft is not nearly as big a show as the NFL and NBA drafts, even in relative terms, but it does create some interest during the offseason, adding to the 24/7-365 environment, as well creating longer term interest among fans keen to see how their draft picks progress and kick on.
Other than the potential cost of it, I don't see any major downside of something that can only get more interest for Super Rugby, especially during the offseason.
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A breakthrough in the Super Rugby wars is on the horizon after New Zealand Rugby’s top brass met with their Australian counterparts at the Wallabies’ Rugby Championship match in Adelaide. Hours before the All Blacks suffered a humiliating loss to Argentina in Christchurch, the Herald can reveal that the NZR chief executive and two board members were at the Rugby Australia chairman’s lounge at Adelaide Oval. Sources close to both camps indicated the gathering was “positive” and “productive”, with a new long-term deal for Super Rugby likely within a couple of weeks. Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA. New Zealand seemed likely to reject a 10-year deal, however, with the final agreement likely to be for a shorter period.New Super deal on brink after secret Adelaide meeting
An unusual trip across the ditch for New Zealand Rugby heavyweights was a signal an acrimonious negotiation over the future of Super Rugby could be at an end.
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The Warratahs have signed Taleni Seu from Japan -
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@Daffy-Jaffy Shame he decided to leave NZ rugby. The telling photo really says it all!
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Wasn't sure where to put this or if it is even interesting but the those flippin' Saders beat us again
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@Daffy-Jaffy Bloody hell, that's quite an unexpected graphic!
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@Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read
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@ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read
Operating a smart phone gets easier when you have 3 thumbs.
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2023:
Even worse if a NZ developed player is drafted by an Aussie franchise, and then being snapped up by the Wallabies.
That's exactly what they want.
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@KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:
Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.
I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?
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@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:
@KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:
Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.
I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?
Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:
@KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:
Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.
I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?
Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.
Isn't it also a bit like what we want when we play say England at Twickenham. .
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@pukunui said in Super Rugby 2023:
@antipodean said in Super Rugby 2023:
@KiwiMurph quoted the ARU mouthpiece in Super Rugby 2023:
Crucially, New Zealand appears to have softened its stance towards Australia’s demand for an even split of broadcast revenue, signifying a victory for RA.
I don't understand this: You can sell your part for more than we can, so we want part of your revenue too?
Wasn’t the old version of super rugby largely funded by NZ/Aus getting a cut from the larger broadcasting deal the South Africans had? Super sport maybe? Not sure when that changed. Might be wrong.
I believe that they agreed SANZAR sold the rights and hence benefited as a whole. In the current iteration, RA and NZR are individually selling their rights.
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@ploughboy said in Super Rugby 2023:
@Daffy-Jaffy i didnt know they could read
Ah yes, that great reading app, Instagram 😁
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The full draw will be released soon.
Super Round Match Schedule: (Australian times)
Friday 3 March
Crusaders v Highlanders, 6.00pm
Melbourne Rebels v Hurricanes, 8.10pm
Saturday 4 MarchMoana Pasifika v Chiefs, 5.05pm
Fijian Drua v Waratahs, 7.45pm
Sunday 5 MarchBlues v Brumbies, 2.00pm
Force v Reds, 4.30pm
Waratahs bolster lock depth for 2023
