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    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

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    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    I blame Foster for playing Ardie out of position.

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    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

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    In fact, many of turnovers nowadays being made by hookers. They linger so that when tackler delays release they can latch on before ball can be placed.

    And midfield backs quite often make more than loosies these days.

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    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    He didn't turn down two kickable penalites, he only turned down one when we were already 7 points behind

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    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    Hahaha, indeed. Put him in the poll. Was he the captain when we lost the Origin decider too?

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    @Bones Agree. Whoever is in the vicinity has to be good and there were a couple of guys named Nonu and Umaga and others in the backs who were good at this.

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    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    i can't believe, in the same breath that people are asking for more tactical thought on the field, that those saem people are suggesting Ardie Savea as the captain.

    The very definition of tactical inflexibility. Ardie, bless him, is all attack, all the time. So much so that his excited labrador act often results in shitty errors at poor times.

    There is so much broken at the moment. But i do think leadership is one of the most important. I just read Ryan having a pop at individual preparation during the week. The skipper should be setting those standards. If he's not, or he is an no one is following, that's a big concern.

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    @mariner4life said in Worst AB Captain:

    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    i can't believe, in the same breath that people are asking for more tactical thought on the field, that those saem people are suggesting Ardie Savea as the captain.

    The very definition of tactical inflexibility. Ardie, bless him, is all attack, all the time. So much so that his excited labrador act often results in shitty errors at poor times.

    There is so much broken at the moment. But i do think leadership is one of the most important. I just read Ryan having a pop at individual preparation during the week. The skipper should be setting those standards. If he's not, or he is an no one is following, that's a big concern.

    But he can learn. Cane has had his time, so Ardie has got a year and a half to improve. Canes has had 2.5 and stil hasn't got it.

    How hard is TAKE THE FUCKING THREE

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    @Machpants dunno, Ardie has made some baffling decisions for the Canes too...

    Right now, I reckon SW maybe only realistic option, outside that, the cupboard is bare anyway unless you sweep Cane out and put Dalton in, but him coming in at this point to captain...sheesh big ask.

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    @taniwharugby i'd throw Smith out there, been a pretty good captain for the Highlanders, he might be feeling some pressure for is jersey currently but generally a lock for his position, and a halfback so loves a chat with the ref

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    @taniwharugby said in Worst AB Captain:

    @Machpants dunno, Ardie has made some baffling decisions for the Canes too...

    Right now, I reckon SW maybe only realistic option, outside that, the cupboard is bare anyway unless you sweep Cane out and put Dalton in, but him coming in at this point to captain...sheesh big ask.

    Yeah fair point

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    @Kiwiwomble a year or so ago, I think I'd have been happy with that, but I think he, as part of the leadership group is struggling too (As is SW) he is too predictable and limited at the moment, maybe that is being constrained to the proposed game plan and structures, who knows?

    All is not well in this team off the park, and it is transferring to the play, as soon as a bit of heat is applied, they melt like butter.

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    @Machpants said in Worst AB Captain:

    @mariner4life said in Worst AB Captain:

    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    i can't believe, in the same breath that people are asking for more tactical thought on the field, that those saem people are suggesting Ardie Savea as the captain.

    The very definition of tactical inflexibility. Ardie, bless him, is all attack, all the time. So much so that his excited labrador act often results in shitty errors at poor times.

    There is so much broken at the moment. But i do think leadership is one of the most important. I just read Ryan having a pop at individual preparation during the week. The skipper should be setting those standards. If he's not, or he is an no one is following, that's a big concern.

    But he can learn. Cane has had his time, so Ardie has got a year and a half to improve. Canes has had 2.5 and stil hasn't got it.

    How hard is TAKE THE FUCKING THREE

    After trying to take the three and having a kicker miss? Or are working out that Ardie's never had the opportunity to develop his leadership skills?

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    @taniwharugby said in Worst AB Captain:

    @Machpants dunno, Ardie has made some baffling decisions for the Canes too...

    Right now, I reckon SW maybe only realistic option, outside that, the cupboard is bare anyway unless you sweep Cane out and put Dalton in, but him coming in at this point to captain...sheesh big ask.

    Even Sam does dumb shit. Hell, it was him at the beginning of the second half that fell backwards into the ruck providing the Argies with the easiest exit out of their half. It set the tone for the next 40mins.

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    @Machpants said in Worst AB Captain:

    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    He didn't turn down two kickable penalites, he only turned down one when we were already 7 points behind

    That was after we had missed one kickable penalty and a long range one.

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    @antipodean yeah I mentioned he is part of the struggling leadership team in my next post.

    Shit aint gonna get easier for this group!

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    @Machpants said in Worst AB Captain:

    @mariner4life said in Worst AB Captain:

    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    i can't believe, in the same breath that people are asking for more tactical thought on the field, that those saem people are suggesting Ardie Savea as the captain.

    The very definition of tactical inflexibility. Ardie, bless him, is all attack, all the time. So much so that his excited labrador act often results in shitty errors at poor times.

    There is so much broken at the moment. But i do think leadership is one of the most important. I just read Ryan having a pop at individual preparation during the week. The skipper should be setting those standards. If he's not, or he is an no one is following, that's a big concern.

    But he can learn. Cane has had his time, so Ardie has got a year and a half to improve. Canes has had 2.5 and stil hasn't got it.

    How hard is TAKE THE FUCKING THREE

    Well in particular against 'park the bus' teams like the Pumas.

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    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    @Machpants said in Worst AB Captain:

    @mariner4life said in Worst AB Captain:

    @pakman said in Worst AB Captain:

    One inconvenient fact in terms of this debate is that in the most critical 15 minutes when ABs made poor tactical choices SAVEA was the captain.

    i can't believe, in the same breath that people are asking for more tactical thought on the field, that those saem people are suggesting Ardie Savea as the captain.

    The very definition of tactical inflexibility. Ardie, bless him, is all attack, all the time. So much so that his excited labrador act often results in shitty errors at poor times.

    There is so much broken at the moment. But i do think leadership is one of the most important. I just read Ryan having a pop at individual preparation during the week. The skipper should be setting those standards. If he's not, or he is an no one is following, that's a big concern.

    But he can learn. Cane has had his time, so Ardie has got a year and a half to improve. Canes has had 2.5 and stil hasn't got it.

    How hard is TAKE THE FUCKING THREE

    Well in particular against 'park the bus' teams like the Pumas.

    I've seen enough ABs tests to know what to do. Take the 3s against teams like that, eventually they will get desperate to catch up and you can feed off their mistakes. Right?

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