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@BartMan said in All Black props:
@pakman said in All Black props:
@NTA said in All Black props:
IamGroot looks handy. Persist.
Lomax: not convinced. And he's an Aussie FFS!
Bower was better on the weekend than i anticipated - worth further evaluation.
Newell: haven't seen enough.
Of those not playing:
Laulala known quantity: good at scrum, great at brain snap penalties.
Ofa: you're missing him I think.
Again it comes down to second row doing their job and combinations in the front row and tight five
Probably needs another thread, but many if not most locks seem to favour one side or other.
BBBR: Excellent on TH
Romero: Also always (good) TH
Big Sam: Was originally very much LH, but since LR left Chch seems to have developed into a good TH as well.
Scooter: Solid LH only.
Vaa'i: Seemed good at LH for Chiefs with BBBR at TH.
Patty T: Useless both sides. Common to see AB scrum turn to custard when he comes on. Total unit, so must be technique.
Haven't seen enough to comment on Dickson/Lord.
Usually put your big munter at TH, as your TH prop is working overtime on hooker and LH prop. Needs more power. I played a festival/charity match yesrs ago at TH. Had Brent Anderson at lock. He said just keep your back straight son and I'll do the rest. Felt like a D8 bulldozer when the power came on!
Ha, he was my PE teacher at school, and he's back again this year!
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@Machpants said in All Black props:
@BartMan said in All Black props:
@pakman said in All Black props:
@NTA said in All Black props:
IamGroot looks handy. Persist.
Lomax: not convinced. And he's an Aussie FFS!
Bower was better on the weekend than i anticipated - worth further evaluation.
Newell: haven't seen enough.
Of those not playing:
Laulala known quantity: good at scrum, great at brain snap penalties.
Ofa: you're missing him I think.
Again it comes down to second row doing their job and combinations in the front row and tight five
Probably needs another thread, but many if not most locks seem to favour one side or other.
BBBR: Excellent on TH
Romero: Also always (good) TH
Big Sam: Was originally very much LH, but since LR left Chch seems to have developed into a good TH as well.
Scooter: Solid LH only.
Vaa'i: Seemed good at LH for Chiefs with BBBR at TH.
Patty T: Useless both sides. Common to see AB scrum turn to custard when he comes on. Total unit, so must be technique.
Haven't seen enough to comment on Dickson/Lord.
Usually put your big munter at TH, as your TH prop is working overtime on hooker and LH prop. Needs more power. I played a festival/charity match yesrs ago at TH. Had Brent Anderson at lock. He said just keep your back straight son and I'll do the rest. Felt like a D8 bulldozer when the power came on!
Ha, he was my PE teacher at school, and he's back again this year!
Geez ferners are getting younger and younger. Hope you get to graduate soon.
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@Bones said in All Black props:
@Crucial said in All Black props:
Everyone fluffing Laulala as our best TH scrummager needs to watch him getting screwed by Waikato tonight
It gets worse.
No wonder laulala was struggling, everyone else in his scrum was about 60 kegs!
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@Machpants said in All Black props:
@Bones said in All Black props:
@Crucial said in All Black props:
Everyone fluffing Laulala as our best TH scrummager needs to watch him getting screwed by Waikato tonight
It gets worse.
No wonder laulala was struggling, everyone else in his scrum was about 60 kegs!
Nepo Eti Laulala (born 6 November 1991) is a New Zealand rugby union footballer who plays as a Tighthead Prop for Counties Manukau Steelers
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@Bones said in All Black props:
@Machpants said in All Black props:
@Bones said in All Black props:
@Crucial said in All Black props:
Everyone fluffing Laulala as our best TH scrummager needs to watch him getting screwed by Waikato tonight
It gets worse.
No wonder laulala was struggling, everyone else in his scrum was about 60 kegs!
Nepo Eti Laulala (born 6 November 1991) is a New Zealand rugby union footballer who plays as a Tighthead Prop for Counties Manukau Steelers
Bugger he is shit then
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@MN5 said in All Black props:
For Laulala to be a decent All Black he’d basically need to be the best scrummager in the world because his work around the field is absolutely diabolical.
He got stood up bad in one try that I saw in the highlights.
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@pakman said in All Black props:
Interesting.
Not sure how he arrives at the conclusion that it was a 50/50 penalty call though - if you ignore everything the SA prop slipping, you might be able to penalise the NZ prop for going down?
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@PecoTrain said in All Black props:
@NTA said in All Black props:
@Rapido except it isn't a video, it's a GIF, which is a poor medium for analysis
Its pronounced JIF....
That's exactly how I pronounced it. Maybe my Australian accent?
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@PecoTrain said in All Black props:
@pakman said in All Black props:
Interesting.
Not sure how he arrives at the conclusion that it was a 50/50 penalty call though - if you ignore everything the SA prop slipping, you might be able to penalise the NZ prop for going down?
Think he was referring to very slight hinge by EDG. Most refs would just penalise Green.
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@chimoaus said in All Black props:
@MN5 said in All Black props:
For Laulala to be a decent All Black he’d basically need to be the best scrummager in the world because his work around the field is absolutely diabolical.
He got stood up bad in one try that I saw in the highlights.
Yes I saw that it was a shocker, certainly did not look like an All Black prop, more like a tired club prop out of his depth at first class level, struggling to keep up with play.
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@BartMan said in All Black props:
@chimoaus said in All Black props:
@MN5 said in All Black props:
For Laulala to be a decent All Black he’d basically need to be the best scrummager in the world because his work around the field is absolutely diabolical.
He got stood up bad in one try that I saw in the highlights.
more like a tired
clubprop out of his depthat first class level, struggling to keep up with play.You should do a poll on this: how many of us is this? Describes me in a nutshell
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@nzzp said in All Black props:
@BartMan said in All Black props:
@chimoaus said in All Black props:
@MN5 said in All Black props:
For Laulala to be a decent All Black he’d basically need to be the best scrummager in the world because his work around the field is absolutely diabolical.
He got stood up bad in one try that I saw in the highlights.
more like a tired
clubprop out of his depthat first class level, struggling to keep up with play.You should do a poll on this: how many of us is this? Describes me in a nutshell
Widen the poll by not restricting it to props.
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Got a question for you all. You know we have the hooker using the 'brake foot' , could we do similar with props? Actually make them hold it too, so always packed with one foot in front of other, I just wonder if it would stop a lot of collapses, props would pack a little higher I know, but may stop feet slipping out etc.
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@Dan54 pretty sure that the set process the way Cron used to coach started with a split stance and only once they engage when both feet go back.
Obviously a hooker is largely reliant on his props stability to allow him to hook, however, given how the 9s pretty much throw the ball under the locks feet now, the hooker isnt losing much power waiting for the hook on one foot.
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@taniwharugby said in All Black props:
@Dan54 pretty sure that the set process the way Cron used to coach started with a split stance and only once they engage when both feet go back.
Obviously a hooker is largely reliant on his props stability to allow him to hook, however, given how the 9s pretty much throw the ball under the locks feet now, the hooker isnt losing much power waiting for the hook on one foot.
Yep taniwhai, I just wonder if props can be made to hold it, so we don't get the probelm when they put foot back and slip out. Would mean staying slightly higher and making sure they learn to straighten back while hips are well bent, might be dumb idea too, just a thought.
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@Dan54 all I'd say is split squats are harder in terms of balance and doing less weight than a standard squat with a square stance, so while your stance wouldnt be as wide as a split squat, I'd say it likely wouldnt be as stable as a square stance, although likely de-powered, if all the props were doing it...
