Foster, Robertson etc
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Also what about his substitutions yesterday. I thought RM was having a pretty useful game and not sure why he had to bring on BB who could have lost the game for us. He subbed for Clark right and hard to tell but I assume Jordie went to wing? Perhaps it was a dual role but I still don’t understand it. Doubt it was because RM was fatigued so why change something that was working?
To a lesser extent, because it was late in the game, why was Rico subbed? He obviously looked pissed at the decision and rightly so.I thought they did a fairly clever bit of subbing. Made a much better job of it than the Red Card debacle against Ireland.
When BB was YCd there was a tactical sub of Tupaea for Cane. Tupaea was strong enough to pack at blindside in the scrum and hold that side (I think Ardie went to open and Akira to 8 ) QT looked like he had practicised there in a contingency role.
This also meant that QT could use his fresh pace to cover the back and 'be everywhere'.
As soon as BB came back, someone else had to go and it was Rieko for Vai'i meaning QT could go full time into the backs and Scooter to 6 (which proved very effective)
Yes, it seemed odd that it was Rieko instead of Havili but at that stage I guess that the feeling was that we needed exit options not wings.BTW Mounga stayed on all game.
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@WillieTheWaiter said in Foster:
But. Mark Robinson has also showed and is showing himself to be a poor executive. So, I have no idea what will happen. But I have little doubt if the can is kicked down the road, based on hope his new assistants can drag him upwards - rather than his proven body of work - we will probably just be back here in about December, and then if kicked further, again back here in abut about July.
got a work colleague who has a mate who works in a large venture capitalist firm in the UK.
He was telling him they had a big session set up in London where they were presenting an investment plan to Robinson - (had a few interesting ideas such as setting up was a structure where 'marquee' players would be loaned to teams around the world.. )
anyway, this session - full of some pretty senior execs with global involvement in multiple sports.. Robinson turned up 30 mins late and walked in wearing shorts and a t shirt..
he just seems to miss the mark as the leader of a supposed world leading sports organisation - I really feel like there needs to be some overseas experience brought into NZR from maybe another 'larger' sport to help grow the brand. I know that firm mentioned above were pretty scathing of the AB's social media game.. and you certainly wouldn't say their comms team isn't anything more than average..
Time to stop promoting from within and spread the net a bit widerYou got a colleague who has a mate who work in a large venture capitalist firm??
That is the best opening sentence for ignoring a post I have ever read lol.
Bit like my cousin who knows the the friend of the sister of Sam whitelock or someone???
sheesh you don't come to the fern for hard facts do ya!
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Regardless or whether you think Fozzie should be there or not, one thing is sure, he has been treated pretty shabbily by NZR. Would a new coach want to take over?
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@Old-Samurai-Jack said in Foster:
Regardless or whether you think Fozzie should be there or not, one thing is sure, he has been treated pretty shabbily by NZR. Would a new coach want to take over?
Totally Robinson should be first to the chop, he was pat of the stupid initial appointment, then the signing before NH tour 'because otherwise it's too mean not to' appears to be his idea/recommendation to the board
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Plumtree will be concerned if the forwards continue to improve with Ryan in charge. He was really rated not that long again.
By who? (apart from Foster). Ryan and Coventry have been the top NZ forwards coaches for sometime and would have sat ahead of Plumtree in pecking order (if available).
Funny if he really was the weak link as part of his reputation came from being hired by Joe Schmidt for Ireland's forwards.
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Did anyone here or in NZ in general (apart from Hanson and the geniuses at the NZRFU) actually want Foster in charge? I could get it if we'd won the RWC but it ended in a debacle. Having been a part of that debacle, how could anyone think he was the man to rebuild and get things back on track? If that was obvious to this gaggle of tards on TSF, then wtf were the decision makers smoking? Is it that difficult to remove oneself from that bubble?
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Plumtree will be concerned if the forwards continue to improve with Ryan in charge. He was really rated not that long again.
By who? (apart from Foster). Ryan and Coventry have been the top NZ forwards coaches for sometime and would have sat ahead of Plumtree in pecking order (if available).
Funny if he really was the weak link as part of his reputation came from being hired by Joe Schmidt for Ireland's forwards.
OK. I thought he was rated highly. (Not now of course) Esp as an assistant in charge of the forwards. And he did get the AB assistants job so more than Foster must have rated him. He also got the Cane's head coach job although that might not be saying much.
Re Schmidt. He appointed him so he must have been rated before then
I wonder if he has an issue dealing with players. As Umaga mentioned.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/archive/national-news/35183/Umaga-sticks-the-boot-in
Umaga also tackles respected coaches John Plumtree and Bryan Williams, saying Plumtree enjoyed humiliating players in front of teammates and that Williams was not "up to speed" with the modern game.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Foster:
Did anyone here or in NZ in general (apart from Hanson and the geniuses at the NZRFU) actually want Foster in charge? I could get it if we'd won the RWC but it ended in a debacle. Having been a part of that debacle, how could anyone think he was the man to rebuild and get things back on track? If that was obvious to this gaggle of tards on TSF, then wtf were the decision makers smoking? Is it that difficult to remove oneself from that bubble?
What made me laugh was apparently Robertson got stumped on one question by the headmaster Graham Henry during the interview and was judged to be "unprepared", whereas, no doubt, Foster gave some good answers. Typical conservative as fuck NZ old school rugby thinkers and a resistance to change with a suspicion of unconventional thinkers like Robertson. Let's judge you on an interview.
Never mind the actual fuckin results of the two candidates.
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OK. I thought he was rated highly. (Not now of course) Esp as an assistant in charge of the forwards. And he did get the AB assistants job so more than Foster must have rated him.
Yeah he was rated by some. I just meant he wasnt necessarily rated in NZ compared to others.
He was SA coach of the year after winning Currie Cup with the Shorks, but that was after a good record with Wellington that didn't lead to a Super job here (maybe a red flag there?).
His Ireland spell didn't last long so maybe Joe knows something which added to him being pushed from the ABsEdit: @Bovidae this post was delayed by a work question. I see you beat me to it.
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Some reading from the soothsayers of the Fern
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3375/new-nzr-ceo-mark-robinson/18
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3608/poll-the-final-choice-ab-coach?page=1
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3572/ab-squad-next-rwc-2023?page=1
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3556/all-black-coach-ian-foster?page=1
