Springboks v All Blacks I
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
If the truth be told, if the Boks were more clinical with all the possession and territory they had, this could have been very ugly. AB defence was very good for the most part and they stopped Bok runners in their tracks. Good sign.
At no point did the Boks feel any scoreboard pressure. At no point did the ABs build pressure for a concerted 5-10 mins period. Knock ons, bad options, silly penalties, all relieved pressure.
ABs did well to get some momentum back in first half after a thoroughly one sided first 20 mins. At 10-3 at half-time, they'd have been relieved. In the past, AB teams that stayed in the fight would have struck back. This side didn't fire a shot until Clarke's burst late on.
I'm not sure how you fix this in one week.
selection table for a start.
ST keeps the hooker jersey.
Rieko needs to be told its 11 or nothing.
Havili relieved of his duties too.
Jordan fullblack.
Ardie or Cane. not both.
That would be a good start.
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
not sure how he has been performing. but he was grand in black every time he played.
No he wasn't.
His last test at 12 vs Wallabies in Brisbane he offered fuck all - just had no physical impact on the game whatsoever.
fair enough mate. I suppose whoever isn't playing has their stocks rising.
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From a neutral point of view, I would say this is probably the first time I’ve seen a NZ test side look so out of sorts. Clueless even.
Your guys are better than that.
However, Well done Bokke. Enjoy the day Uncle PB, Smuts etc.
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@Catogrande said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
From a neutral point of view, I would say this is probably the first time I’ve seen a NZ test side look so out of sorts. Clueless even.
Your guys are better than that.
However, Well done Bokke. Enjoy the day Uncle PB, Smuts etc.
You haven't invested in shares of the "Foster out" bandwagon? Or are you hoping the NZRU keep on him until Nov when NZ play England?
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Catogrande said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
From a neutral point of view, I would say this is probably the first time I’ve seen a NZ test side look so out of sorts. Clueless even.
Your guys are better than that.
However, Well done Bokke. Enjoy the day Uncle PB, Smuts etc.
You haven't invested in shares of the "Foster out" bandwagon? Or are you hoping the NZRU keep on him until Nov when NZ play England?
No and yes 😁
Honestly though, there was really nothing to that performance other than some gutsy defence. No cohesion, mistakes under pressure with little in the way of support, awful discipline, no real idea in attack. The sad truth is that SA didn’t have to play that well to take a relatively pressure free win.
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@KiwiMurph said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Bundee Aki currently loitering up in Ireland would walk into the team and he was a cast off about 8 years ago.
Hansen in his wisdom chose Francis Saili over him.... Saili wasn't even starting for the Blues at the time.....
The same Saili that took over from a hapless Laumape in France? 😁
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@98blueandgold said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
One thing I noticed is they are obviously got some issues with culture. Maybe I'm overstating it but after Ireland game we were not connected and together after the game or during it, this game there seemed to be an emphasis on celebrating say scrum wins, while after the game they came together for the huddle, incl all non-players. Issues maybe deep rooted. seemed a little forced from outside looking in. In comparison Sth Africa looked like they were best of mates, lots of emotion, like Ireland...
Have to agree. There seems a lack of passion and zero enjoyment on the field. It's almost as if they are either trying to focus too much and are wound up all the time and not letting things flow - or they have some sort of collective anxiety attack at critical times.
You almost think they'd do better if they said "Fuck it, let's just go out there and have some fun - we might not win, but at least we'd be enjoying ourselves a bit"
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@stodders said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
@OomPB said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
The Bokke have perfected rush defense tonight.
They blurred the offside line v well and got away with it. Smart play.
On another day, you'll get pinged off the park. That's the chance you take.
They should have been tonight
Really poor officiating
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@MiketheSnow it went both ways. The All Blacks had to defend much more.
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@akan004 said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
Foster really doesn't seem that upset about destroying our legacy does he.
But look at his awesome numbers, under after Hansen's two year over stay, and Foster's tenure we've gone up from 1 to 5! That's gotta be good, right?
Fifth ranked in the world, and Foster says it was our best performance, what a fluffybunny
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@Victor-Meldrew yep and it rubs off on play as simple as Carries. At its simplistic form it’s a collision sport where you have to go 100% we look like we aren’t enjoying it and our Carries reflect that. No damage done. Watching Ireland-SA And even watching Argies now they carry with passion and intensity. Seems simple. That’s why they always say it starts with culture.
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@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
is he just refusing step down so he gets his pay off?
It seems we are into that sort of territory now.
He won't get another good gig after this.
He probably was going to head off to a nice retirement lost-RWC. He'll get a fair amount of speaking gigs as the "first ever AB coach to be sacked". In a tenure with lots of firsts, getting sacked will be his last.
Unless something quite spectacular happens next week and the ABs run riot against the Boks with a display of panache and guile that was nowhere to be seen today.
Foster will be coach next week. Best get used to that one.
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Woke up watched the game, screw the officiating, we simply sucked. Apart from Samisoni the rest of the tight 5 were simply outplayed. As for the props both sucked de Groot played well off the bench. Maul defence was better, scrums pathetic, lineouts average. No dominance at the breakdown. What is going on with our backs? No creativity, nothing.
Foster is STILL an absolute moron when he says "that was the best performance of the year' faaaarrrkkk ne that was our biggest defeat in SA in 94 years. And the next line from the moron " execute and play with a smile on their face" what the actual fuck is this the Waitemata Under 10's??? Don't forget the oranges dick head.
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@Steve said in Springboks v All Blacks I:
an argie just got coat angered high by a wallaby.
Argie 7 is straight in for some handbags with the offender.
Allblacks are lacking that mongrel and solidarity right now.
Do you think it is coached out of them to reduce chances of getting carded?
