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    @Old-Samurai-Jack I think it was mentioned in a Ferald article but there has been no official announcement, so only a rumour at this stage.

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    ... Exactly...

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack.

    Stuff
    . 1/3 down page or so

    Stuff understands MacDonald will take charge of the All Blacks XV tour later this year, when those who miss out on All Blacks selection will be given the chance to impress in the northern hemisphere.
    
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    @nostrildamus. Yep that same article of fictional concoction. Touché.

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    @ARHS they should just have 1 sauce per article because when 1 is found to be rubbish the rest all crumble!

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    To quote Theresa May "Nothing has changed."

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    Didn't one dude say it on Twitter? It wasn't even a "well-connected" journalist this time. All we know for sure is that Foster is in charge of ABs, MacDonald is taking the AB XV to Europe, and Razor isn't even in the frame. Foster said some changes were coming but that could be anything from a change in his breakfast menu to a reshuffle of duties by the existing coaches.

    Razor was offered the All Blacks VX apparently, but seem coaching the Baabaas maybe worth a bit more coin?

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    @Victor-Meldrew There has been more than enough time to see if this works. It doesn't. Minimal progress in ABs since 2016.
    The time to change is before the EOYT.

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    Coach / Assistant Coach discussion can go in this thread:

    https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/5431/foster-must-go-assistant-coach-changes/

    We were getting the exact same news/conversation in two places and it was getting hard to follow

    Lets keep this thread about the squad discussion

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    A lot to like about this article: https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/25/all-blacks-squad-for-south-africa-series-suggests-foster-is-about-to-make-the-same-mistakes-all-over-again/

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    @pakman it's not. it's rubbish. and a bit of "my favourite players, and my least favourite players" drum beating.

    His description of Frizzell is fucking laughable. But not surprising given the user name

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    @pakman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    A lot to like about this article: https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/25/all-blacks-squad-for-south-africa-series-suggests-foster-is-about-to-make-the-same-mistakes-all-over-again/

    That’s a great article if only for the gratuitous and totally unnecessary Led Zep references at the start.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @pakman it's not. it's rubbish. and a bit of "my favourite players, and my least favourite players" drum beating.

    His description of Frizzell is fucking laughable. But not surprising given the user name

    Is test Frizzell a different beast to Super R. Frizzell? The latter sounds great!

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    His description of Frizzell is fucking laughable. But not surprising given the user name

    The Roar is fucking weird. I skimmed the comments and Shannon was getting love in there too.

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    I'm not as down on Frizzell as others. When first selected he was a joke, not even starting for the Highlanders - just a silly coach looking to pull a rabbit out of the hat when we could have had Luatua - hardly Frizzell's fault being selected though.
    The last two years his super form has justified AB selection, he's been a real standout in a poor side. Maybe another year of ABs and he starts to stand out at the higher level too. Maybe not too of course, but I think his form is equal or better to others mentioned.

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @pakman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    A lot to like about this article: https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/25/all-blacks-squad-for-south-africa-series-suggests-foster-is-about-to-make-the-same-mistakes-all-over-again/

    That’s a great article if only for the gratuitous and totally unnecessary Led Zep references at the start.

    Particularly as they nicked Dazed and Confused from Jake Holmes like Ireland nicked Bundee Aki.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    @pakman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    A lot to like about this article: https://www.theroar.com.au/2022/07/25/all-blacks-squad-for-south-africa-series-suggests-foster-is-about-to-make-the-same-mistakes-all-over-again/

    That’s a great article if only for the gratuitous and totally unnecessary Led Zep references at the start.

    Particularly as they nicked Dazed and Confused from Jake Holmes like Ireland nicked Bundee Aki.

    They made it way better though, not unlike what Ireland did with Bundee

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    I'm not as down on Frizzell as others. When first selected he was a joke, not even starting for the Highlanders - just a silly coach looking to pull a rabbit out of the hat when we could have had Luatua - hardly Frizzell's fault being selected though.
    The last two years his super form has justified AB selection, he's been a real standout in a poor side. Maybe another year of ABs and he starts to stand out at the higher level too. Maybe not too of course, but I think his form is equal or better to others mentioned.

    You know what, I am beginning to find a slight ok with this. I don't think Frizzle adds a dynamic edge to 6 but it looks like all the loosies are struggling unless they just go berserk mode like Ardie normally 60 minutes in, rip shit (forgive my technical language) and tear up the script.

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    The solution is not to pick mediocre players who have been given years of chances and been found wanting.

    And that was during a period of our tight five being pretty good. Picking him now, without fixing the tight five is going to expose his flaws even more.

    And that’s without getting into his flaws as a human being.

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    @Kirwan said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

    The solution is not to pick mediocre players who have been given years of chances and been found wanting.

    And that was during a period of our tight five being pretty good. Picking him now, without fixing the tight five is going to expose his flaws even more.

    And that’s without getting into his flaws as a human being.

    Thing is that we could leave him out due to his personal failings if we had other 6's that ran straight and hard and stayed in the narrow channels.

    As for giving players chances to develop, that is actually a problem we have from always looking for the next big thing rather than letting players develop. McCaw took years, even Carter was a 'project' at the start.
    Ireland showed the possible benefits of investing in players (our discards).
    I'm not saying that all mediocre players should be persisted with, just that sometimes in areas of weakness we need to back one horse rather than keep spreading bets.
    An example may be QT in the midfield. He's no finished product by any means but it is possible to see a long term solid player there that we can build around. Bet we will ditch him for RTS.

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