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    @MrDenmore said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Marshall was saying on that Irish podcast that the NZR can’t afford to pay out all the contracts of the coaching staff. I guess the answer to that is can they afford not to??

    By fuck they can, use all the Silverlake money. Get it done.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Is this true? What did he say?

    Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

    Wonder if the likes of Fitzy are getting on the phones to NZR HQ?

    Doubt it. He sold his soul a long long time ago.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Is this true? What did he say?

    Probably a fuck lot more polite then what were saying on here

    Wonder if the likes of Fitzy are getting on the phones to NZR HQ?

    Doubt it. He sold his soul a long long time ago.

    When he spoke at a Sports Lunch 2-3 years back, he mentioned that he and all the ex-AB Captains were in regular contact with NZR. Sounded like a formal or semi-formal thing.

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    It is funny. I didn't think the ABs played badly individually at all. Maligned players such as Havili and Akira esp. were quite good. The problem with this AB set up is that it is killing good players. New players like LF are being sacrificed as well. The contrast with the well-coached Ireland is staggering.

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    @Old-Samurai-Jack some individuals played okay and there was a short period where we seemed in sync. For me the biggest problem is that lack of combination and trust within the group. Are they playing for each other? Do they know what the guy next to them is going to do and adjust or react accordingly?

    Rugby is the ultimate team sport in my opinion and yet we aren’t playing like a team. That’s coaching and man management.

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    Stuff
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    @ACT-Crusader My thoughts too. There doesn’t appear to be any sense they are playing for each other, but alongside each other. They’re passive and tentative. There is no cohesion or sense of a shared mission. It’s poor coaching and leadership

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    Watching the Aus game and every time I see Dave Rennie I die a little inside. How the fůck could that happen?

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel Although not sure Aus is doing too much better

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack some individuals played okay and there was a short period where we seemed in sync. For me the biggest problem is that lack of combination and trust within the group. Are they playing for each other? Do they know what the guy next to them is going to do and adjust or react accordingly?

    Rugby is the ultimate team sport in my opinion and yet we aren’t playing like a team. That’s coaching and man management.

    Read said they looked like a team who hadn't spent enough time together. He looked almost apologetic when he said it. Sounds like a diplomatic indictment to me

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    @Jailbreak7 said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel Although not sure Aus is doing too much better

    Don't speak too soon!

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    @Halfout any opinion on the non red cards for Aki and Porter?

    Ireland are clearly better coached and full value for the win.

    But I can help but feel refereeing turned the last two tests in a huge way.

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    @Steve Nah, poor reffing in the 2nd, good reffing in the 3rd.

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    @MrDenmore said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @ACT-Crusader My thoughts too. There doesn’t appear to be any sense they are playing for each other, but alongside each other. They’re passive and tentative. There is no cohesion or sense of a shared mission. It’s poor coaching and leadership

    Bang on, was at the match tonight, and that was really obvious. Complete lack of confidence and a sameness about every laboured play. Guys were consistently running onto or with the ball at half or 3/4 pace.

    In stark contrast the Irish side knew exactly what they needed to do in every situation. They were fast and precise. Like our team used to be.

    I went away disappointed but also feeling the right coaching panel can make a big impact really quickly.

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    @Duluth

    Do you think that they thought they'd show up tonight and win?

    I listened to that and all I heard was that the ABs are starting to sound like the Canes - we'll learn from this and be better next week.

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    “A New Zealand Rugby media manager stepped in when Foster was asked if he even wanted to remain All Blacks coach”

    Can the guy be allowed to answer the tough but obvious Qs??

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    @Steve said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    @Halfout any opinion on the non red cards for Aki and Porter?

    Ireland are clearly better coached and full value for the win.

    But I can help but feel refereeing turned the last two tests in a huge way.

    My view of those is the same as my view of Ta’avu’s red. I didn’t think he should have got a red, and I don’t think Aki or Porter should have got red. The incidents are being refereed on the basis of slow motion and multiple replays whereas they’re happening in split seconds.

    On a more controversial note I believe LF should have got a straight red. He was stupidly reckless and completely out of control, and I think Barnes would have walked him, but Peyper is a poor ref who painted himself into a corner with the LF decision and then had to send Ta’avu off. I believe the action rather than outcome should be the deciding factor.

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:

    Sounded like he'd already been on the beers.
    And... some bullshit attempt at replicating the "pain" that he knew had gone down well in the past (Aaron Smith a year or two back?)... but couldn't help throwing in the corporate "yeah, we'll just do better".
    I like Ardie, but... yeah, nah.

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    @Winger

    Keep foster and his coaching team, the cost to NZ rugby will be far greater than a few severance cheques.

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