All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones jesus, its a typo
Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.
Dafydd Latter was more of a childhood hero for me...but i actually dont think he'd care
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones jesus, its a typo
Oh sure, we'll just go dusrispicting your childhood heroes eh. I'm sure Shaun Fitspatrack won't mind.
Dafydd Latter was more of a childhood hero for me...but i actually dont think he'd care
Just don't talk to me about Pull Cocke
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@Bones side note, actually a top bloke, he and John leslie use to coach one of my school teams
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@Kiwiwomble it’s it’s not its 😉
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god i hate this place
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones side note, actually a top bloke, he and John leslie use to coach one of my school teams
Leslie
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@Bones no more upvote's for you
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@canefan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones jesus, its a typo
Peddant alert ⚠️
Love you're work
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Bones jesus, its a typo
No only @Bones
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Bit late to the party, but I'm on board with the "let's not get too carried away" side. Scores were very close at about 30 minutes when we got an intercept try and their long-term 10 and captain went off injured, and they still went on to score a lot of points - and could have scored quite a few more on another day with the several tries they blew / we saved. Scoreline looks great, but our defense was generally pretty shit until they got to our line.
A lot of aimless kicking the ball away (and one absolute gem for the try). We keep doing this, and luck had it that in this game we weren't punished for it because the Irish kept making mistakes. We continue to lose possession and territory stats, and we will be punished for it again.Good things:
Tupaea's hands and options
Smith is a national treasure
Ioane's defence was unreal
Whitelock just keeps going
Savea late in the game
Bower and Ofa looked alright
Competing in lineoutsBad things / jury still out:
Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively
Jordie looked a bit scratchy
Samisoni should be starting
Ardie should be a bench player
I know we've been spoiled at 7 forever, but Cane - while a genuinely excellent defender - doesn't offer a lot else
Retallick was okay, but is he going to get back to his best?
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively
I'd say really similar in style to JGP actually. Which has certainly been an effective style for Ireland, but almost the opposite of Smith in terms of distribution.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@reprobate said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Christie was a big drop in passing accuracy, not sure he can play the same style effectively
I'd say really similar in style to JGP actually. Which has certainly been an effective style for Ireland, but almost the opposite of Smith in terms of distribution.
Yeah Christie's a good player: urgent, good motor, into everything - and decision-making is improving. But he can't pass like Aaron Smith, and that speed and width of delivery is what our game is based on. Especially now we are subbing Smith earlier, I think we need to give Fakatava a crack as soon as possible, because I feel like his speed of delivery from the base of the ruck is potentially the closest and can keep us playing a similar style rather than having to change halfway through a game.
Fakatava doesn't have the accuracy or length of pass of Smith, or the clarity in choosing who to hit - but then nobody does, and hopefully that can be worked on. -
Interesting analysis from Squidge -
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@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Interesting analysis from Squidge -
Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ
Highlander's take from the roar
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Interesting analysis from Squidge -
Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ
Highlander's take from the roar
That was pretty good, but also completely terrifying in that it shows our total reliance on Aaron Smith.
Let's hope Fakatava is the 2nd coming!
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@Machpants said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
Interesting analysis from Squidge -
Need a VPN, sky has blocked it in NZ
Highlander's take from the roar
Good analysis. Some very good points about the type of defending that goes unnoticed and the role that Cane is playing (being first to the attacking breakdown) which is something that goes unnoticed and unmentioned by commentators and stats.
I do wonder if that gameplan will now be shelved until needed and a different picture will be painted with the different loosie mix.
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