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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.

    I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.

    I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.

    We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Stag said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @African-Monkey 6 runs for 1 meter gained and 14 tackles is hardly earth shattering for an All Black 7 and captain.

    really, 14 tackles and a good percentage of them dominant, chirst some of you probably need to learn about the game. it's not about stats, but who makes a difference on field and Cane surely does!

    Stats are only part of it - running off the ball, cleaning, tough metres on your line, dominant tackles, straight running…lots of quality measures. Sometimes you can do all of that and the game doesn’t go your way. Other times you look like a star. That’s why the media ratings are always bollocks. They don’t know the game plan, they have to produce something to a deadline, they won’t have reviewed the game…still sells papers and we love it when our favourite player is lauded.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.

    The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.

    Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.

    Yeah, an ALB like performance with some of the tidy up he did. He's not as light footed as ALB but is stronger in the tackle.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Bones Also with how good he was in Ireland's win over the ABs last year.

    I'd take him in a heartbeat over anyone but Smith. He'd be excellent for the ABs.

    We already have a ginga in the squad and now you want to add one of the most punchable faces in existence?

    I've never heard he has even the slightest of punchable faces, let alone up the ladder in terms of existence. I don't find his looks very noteworthy at all. Strange take...

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    @ACT-Crusader If we win the big gong in France next year with all those geriatrics it will be our greatest achievement

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    A small flicker of hope rekindled for France 2023.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @junior This! BB needs a "get out of jail" No.12 alongside him. Big Havili fan but a BB, Havili combo doesn't seem to work.

    The thing I liked about QT's performance last night was his support play and how he tidied stuff up. There was one occasion when the ball was bobbling around about 5m in-field and he was just so calm and deliberate in looking around and gathering it - looked as though he had all the time in the world.

    Hope he can build on it and this isn't a one-off as we need that sort of re-assurance at 12.

    That’s what you’ll get from QT. Strong direct carrying, solid physical defense and I like that he error rate across the board is low. Whether that’s enough to hold off Goodhue, Havili, RTS & ALB remains to be seen. There is some stiff competition.

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    I am happy about the win, but from my vantage point (mobile phone at the pub surrounded by AFL supporters) I was a tad concerned at how the Irish appeared to comfortably make ground and it seemed they crossed the AB try line every chance they got. Sure they fluffed their lines and failed to score a couple of times but the Irish will take heart from it.

    Also, to gain physical dominace it looked like quite a mental and physical effort from the ABs. We have seen a few games like this over the last couple of years only for the team to not back it up consistently.

    A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

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    @Crazy-Horse AB forwards maintained possession . Last couple of years dropped the groceries in a wet paper bag

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

    I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.

    Early days, but it was a big improvement.

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    @Crazy-Horse yeah I said earlier it was a paper over the cracks win. For all the dominance, we didn't seem... well... dominant. A lot of it was down to Ireland shitting the bed. We didn't seem cohesive and fluent.

    But maybe that's our plan.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

    I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.

    Early days, but it was a big improvement.

    Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.

    I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

    I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.

    Early days, but it was a big improvement.

    Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.

    I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.

    Perhaps they are focussed on doing the basics well for extended periods of time? It was certainly needed.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    A lot of talk on here early in the match about not seeing anything different from the ABs. That talk died off a bit once we started winning. But did anyone see anything different in the end? I didn't but I couldn't watch closely enough

    I think the difference was the focus and precision. As @BerniesCorner points out they kept possession and didn't give it away with handling errors or penalties when they were rocking it up the field.

    Early days, but it was a big improvement.

    Definitely a start but we have seen performances like that before.

    I was thinking along the line of changes to attacking or defensive structures etc. Might be too early to tell I suppose, but nothing obvious jumped out at me.

    Perhaps they are focussed on doing the basics well for extended periods of time? It was certainly needed.

    I think QT typified our performance. Nothing flashy, calm and understated, fundamentally solid

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    @MadGav said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @MiketheSnow you normally talk sense but this is bollocks.

    25:34 real time action, then replays

    To my eyes, ABs 12 slid in off his feet with no chance / attempt of gaining possession and knocked the ball in to touch.

    My understanding, like in the Luke Cowan Dickie incident last Autumn, is if the ball goes in to touch this way then it's a penalty and YC.

    Welcome clarification and/or correction.

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    @MiketheSnow Geo-blocked in NZ

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    @Crazy-Horse

    I thought it was a pretty good first test of the year against quality opponents.

    Compare how we went to how the Saffa’s went against a weaker opponent and with the advantage of it being at altitude.

    So, it’s a very positive start for this season - with a lot of room for improvements

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    Genuine attempt to secure the ball.

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