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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?

    Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.

    He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.

    Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.

    I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
    Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.

    I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.

    You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
    They might even ask questions and be told things .

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?

    Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.

    He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.

    Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.

    exactly, if we need a lock the SB is ya man....if we need a 6 that can step into lock for the final 20mins...there are better options, this is just fozzie getting blinded by just getting who he considers the best 23 players on the pitch without considering other factors

    It seems so again.

    seems like he just looks up players rating on Rugby Challenge or something

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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #450

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?

    Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.

    He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.

    Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.

    I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
    Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.

    I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.

    You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
    They might even ask questions and be told things .

    I fucking hope so or we are in worse shape than I already think we are under Foster and co.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?

    Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.

    He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.

    Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.

    exactly, if we need a lock the SB is ya man....if we need a 6 that can step into lock for the final 20mins...there are better options, this is just fozzie getting blinded by just getting who he considers the best 23 players on the pitch without considering other factors

    It seems so again.

    seems like he just looks up players rating on Rugby Challenge or something

    LOL

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Kirwan well we had a lock out injured within days of squad naming, he wasnt even replaced, yet they called in Ennor, Telea and Lomax within days...

    Assume, regardless of lock or loosie getting injured, Grace is likely next cab?

    There's enough squad cover for a loose forward injury. If a lock went down I think they'd go for a specialist, maybe Dickson

    A certain ex-Blues captain has been with the team in Auckland. He probably can't play though.

    Not needed at the moment but I agree that it is crazy that Pat T and DMac are off limits. They have both re-committed as far as I know. Just waiting to run on for their province for 10 minutes then lo and behold it's all good.

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    replied to Chris on last edited by
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    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?

    Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.

    He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.

    Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.

    I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
    Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.

    I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.

    You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
    They might even ask questions and be told things .

    I fucking hope so or we are in worse shape than I already think we are under Foster and co.

    Why do you keep on about this. It's quite obvious and logical that they do.

    I'm pretty sure that 'let @Chris from TSF know the plans and player messages' isn't part of Fosters PD.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    replied to Crucial on last edited by
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    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?

    Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.

    He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.

    Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.

    I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
    Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.

    I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.

    You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
    They might even ask questions and be told things .

    I fucking hope so or we are in worse shape than I already think we are under Foster and co.

    Why do you keep on about this. It's quite obvious and logical that they do.

    I'm pretty sure that 'let @Chris from TSF know the plans and player messages' isn't part of Fosters PD.

    I would not really want to know what Foster thinks,I would then spend a lot more time on here ranting about what a shit coach he is.
    Foster gives me enough ammunition as it is.

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    It seems very odd to me how the AB selectors keep using players outside their SR positions. If SB is a long term option at 6 why does he not play there for the Crusaders. Each position is a specialist position in terms of positioning etc etc. You cannot expect a player to play lock all year and then intuitively know how to play 6.

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  • KiwiwombleK Online
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    replied to chimoaus on last edited by
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    @chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    It seems very odd to me how the AB selectors keep using players outside their SR positions. If SB is a long term option at 6 why does he not play there for the Crusaders. Each position is a specialist position in terms of positioning etc etc. You cannot expect a player to play lock all year and then intuitively know how to play 6.

    maybe thats why we've seen some basic's like handling errors over the last couple of years, theyre using what limited time they have adjusting to new positions

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  • BerniesCornerB Online
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    Hope they are receptive to considering that the starting 7 doesn't have to play the whole game. Paps is the form 7.
    This forward pack has a feeling of 2019 WC, only older.
    Really looking forward to playing France in 2023, yikes
    Where's Razor

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    replied to BerniesCorner on last edited by
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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    Hope they are receptive to considering that the starting 7 doesn't have to play the whole game. Paps is the form 7.
    This forward pack has a feeling of 2019 WC, only older.
    Really looking forward to playing France in 2023, yikes
    Where's Razor

    Looking ahead, if he keeps selecting like this we have no chance of winning a World Cup. I hope we keep the Bledisloe.

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  • BerniesCornerB Online
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    @Kirwan Over the past 3 years NZR have made huge mistakes.
    This feels like death by a thousand cuts

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Kirwan Over the past 3 years NZR have made huge mistakes.
    This feels like death by a thousand cuts

    Never thought I would miss Steve Tew.

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  • BerniesCornerB Online
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    @Kirwan This tanker can be turned around. Look at the Blues 🙂
    It ain't going to happen with the current command

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    All those backs have fallen over and Tuivasa-Sheck still doesn’t get a go in the 23.

    I think it's because all those backs have fallen over is why RTS is not in the 23. Puts undue pressure on him especially if as expected the game is tight. Ennor has a couple of seasons in the AB's under his belt.

    personally i feel having BB inside and RI outside would have off set quite a bit of that

    TBF, it didn't help much in the SRP Final.

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    @Victor-Meldrew not untrue but one game vs an otherwise pretty good season?

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    Well, fuck.

    I'm not exactly one for the Foster pile on either but godammit he makes it hard to be inspired and confident with these fucking bizarre selections.

    Not confident at all after seeing that Irish side.

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    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:

    @Victor-Meldrew not untrue but one game vs an otherwise pretty good season?

    Yeah, but that game was a Final at another level of intensity. Foster has probably weighted up the risk factor from another step upwards and decided Ennor is a safer option on the bench.

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    Thank God Aaron Smith is fit.
    Finlay Christie starting would have sucked.
    How long will it take Foster to figure out Fakatava has a far higher ceiling?

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