All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test
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@Kirwan well we had a lock out injured within days of squad naming, he wasnt even replaced, yet they called in Ennor, Telea and Lomax within days...
Assume, regardless of lock or loosie getting injured, Grace is likely next cab?
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst. -
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
Yes he did say he was an option at 6, however he also said he was the form lock and the best ball carrying lock.
Fosters comments about SB's form, and other options returning at 6, puts pressure on Retallick and (to a lesser extent) Whitelock IMO
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@Kirwan said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
It's not like we have a lot of lock options either, like at loose forward. We need SB at lock.
Yep totally agree, I think Barrett is our best Lock especially with ball in hand. It is just weird what is happening with selections 2021 all over again.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
exactly, if we need a lock the SB is ya man....if we need a 6 that can step into lock for the final 20mins...there are better options, this is just fozzie getting blinded by just getting who he considers the best 23 players on the pitch without considering other factors
It seems so again.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kirwan well we had a lock out injured within days of squad naming, he wasnt even replaced, yet they called in Ennor, Telea and Lomax within days...
Assume, regardless of lock or loosie getting injured, Grace is likely next cab?
There's enough squad cover for a loose forward injury. If a lock went down I think they'd go for a specialist, maybe Dickson
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
Yes he did say he was an option at 6, however he also said he was the form lock and the best ball carrying lock.
Fosters comments about SB's form, and other options returning at 6, puts pressure on Retallick and (to a lesser extent) Whitelock IMO
It should put pressure on I do agree with Foster on Barrett being the best ball carrying lock.
Barrett back to lock and Akira to 6 looks better as far as ball runners go. -
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kirwan well we had a lock out injured within days of squad naming, he wasnt even replaced, yet they called in Ennor, Telea and Lomax within days...
Assume, regardless of lock or loosie getting injured, Grace is likely next cab?
There's enough squad cover for a loose forward injury. If a lock went down I think they'd go for a specialist, maybe Dickson
A certain ex-Blues captain has been with the team in Auckland. He probably can't play though.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.
You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
They might even ask questions and be told things . -
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
exactly, if we need a lock the SB is ya man....if we need a 6 that can step into lock for the final 20mins...there are better options, this is just fozzie getting blinded by just getting who he considers the best 23 players on the pitch without considering other factors
It seems so again.
seems like he just looks up players rating on Rugby Challenge or something
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.
You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
They might even ask questions and be told things .I fucking hope so or we are in worse shape than I already think we are under Foster and co.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
exactly, if we need a lock the SB is ya man....if we need a 6 that can step into lock for the final 20mins...there are better options, this is just fozzie getting blinded by just getting who he considers the best 23 players on the pitch without considering other factors
It seems so again.
seems like he just looks up players rating on Rugby Challenge or something
LOL
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Kirwan well we had a lock out injured within days of squad naming, he wasnt even replaced, yet they called in Ennor, Telea and Lomax within days...
Assume, regardless of lock or loosie getting injured, Grace is likely next cab?
There's enough squad cover for a loose forward injury. If a lock went down I think they'd go for a specialist, maybe Dickson
A certain ex-Blues captain has been with the team in Auckland. He probably can't play though.
Not needed at the moment but I agree that it is crazy that Pat T and DMac are off limits. They have both re-committed as far as I know. Just waiting to run on for their province for 10 minutes then lo and behold it's all good.
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@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.
You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
They might even ask questions and be told things .I fucking hope so or we are in worse shape than I already think we are under Foster and co.
Why do you keep on about this. It's quite obvious and logical that they do.
I'm pretty sure that 'let @Chris from TSF know the plans and player messages' isn't part of Fosters PD.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@Chris said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
If Dalton isn't 100% why is he on the bench given there's 2 x 7s in the starting loose forward trio? Akira injured but are Hoskins and Vaai covid/injured?
Yeah I couldn't understand that one, then Foster coming out and saying SB is a option at 6 potentially long term.
He's not even a legit 6 option for the Crusaders, only when there are injuries. Given test rugby is alot tighter I'm sure he has the skills/athleticism to play there but just strange he's plonked there after being picked in the squad as a lock and Foster & co speaking highly of Va'ai as a 6 option.
Yeah I think he could play there as he did well for the Crusaders but its strange messaging and selections isn't it,Players picked like you say Va'ai as a lock but mentioned by Foster as real option at 6 now Barret is a 6 option maybe long term.
I'm sure that the messages the players are getting aren't like that though. If there was you'd see a mutiny like the BFs had. The players here actually seem to respect the coaches despite the public comments.
Ido agree though that a lot of Foster's public support problems come from his poor communication with fans though. There's confusion and a lack of clarity which leads to everyone thinking the worst.I hope the players are not getting these messages,Confusing at the moment to us mortals.
You dont think that the players hear from the coaches more than we do? Just a possibility.
They might even ask questions and be told things .I fucking hope so or we are in worse shape than I already think we are under Foster and co.
Why do you keep on about this. It's quite obvious and logical that they do.
I'm pretty sure that 'let @Chris from TSF know the plans and player messages' isn't part of Fosters PD.
I would not really want to know what Foster thinks,I would then spend a lot more time on here ranting about what a shit coach he is.
Foster gives me enough ammunition as it is. -
It seems very odd to me how the AB selectors keep using players outside their SR positions. If SB is a long term option at 6 why does he not play there for the Crusaders. Each position is a specialist position in terms of positioning etc etc. You cannot expect a player to play lock all year and then intuitively know how to play 6.
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@chimoaus said in All Blacks v Ireland - 1st Test:
It seems very odd to me how the AB selectors keep using players outside their SR positions. If SB is a long term option at 6 why does he not play there for the Crusaders. Each position is a specialist position in terms of positioning etc etc. You cannot expect a player to play lock all year and then intuitively know how to play 6.
maybe thats why we've seen some basic's like handling errors over the last couple of years, theyre using what limited time they have adjusting to new positions
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Hope they are receptive to considering that the starting 7 doesn't have to play the whole game. Paps is the form 7.
This forward pack has a feeling of 2019 WC, only older.
Really looking forward to playing France in 2023, yikes
Where's Razor
