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well done England and Catogrande!
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Good test, 2 very different game plans. Given what I saw tonight i still expect Australia to win the series.
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It was the best game I've seen Cole play for a long time. I thought he had stagnated as a player and was just treading water until a younger guy put his hand up. But he was very good today; very smart, experienced scrummaging, got over the ball a couple of times like he used to and even carried to good effect once or twice.<br><br>
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<p>And while the penalty count was bad for us - discipline etc - the bigger factor is WHERE we gave those penalties away. In our half.</p>
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<p>Whereas, from my earlier post: when we got into the red zone England were confident in their line speed and didn't attack the ruck. We were laser-focused on upsetting their ball, and doing that anywhere inside your 40 metres is going to result in issues.</p>
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<p>Yeah Nick, agree. I was a little surprised at how hard Hooper and Pocock for example went for the ball in those 50/50 situations whilst in the England half. It resulted in a rather expensive night with Farrell having a Johnny W-like performance</p> -
<p>My team for next week wouldn't change too much - Kepu for Holmes, Horwill for Simmons (who I assume is injured).</p>
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<p>Maybe Lilo for Kerevi, depending on what Cheika wants.</p>
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<p>Very pleased with that - unsurprisingly. A win in Aus for us is rare and to put more points on them than the 2003 team is great too. However at no time did I feel comfortable until we got the turnover in the last minute. The try after that was just window dressing. Aus looked so bloody dangerous and every time Folau got the ball in anything that looked like space I was thinking about how to empty my colostomy bag.</p>
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<p>A big call from Mr Percentage to take of Burrell but our defensive pattern looked better straight away.</p>
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<p>Nathan Grey remains a complete cock.</p>
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Just got back from game. Was one of the better ones I've seen at Suncorp. It seemed that Aus were killing them in the backs but that England were better in the forwards. England also played much much smarter rugby. The 2nd test should be a cracker.<br><br>
Obviously I dislike the guy so take this with a grain of salt, but I was surprised at how little Pocock actually does. He spends a shit load of time hanging round the midfield running interference, but doesn't do much else. Obviously his principal skill is of massive value, but if he's stopped from pilfering he's a bit of a passenger. -
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<p>Just got back from game. Was one of the better ones I've seen at Suncorp. It seemed that Aus were killing them in the backs but that England were better in the forwards. England also played much much smarter rugby. The 2nd test should be a cracker.<br><br>
Obviously I dislike the guy so take this with a grain of salt, but <strong>I was surprised at how little Pocock actually does</strong>. He spends a shit load of time hanging round the midfield running interference, but doesn't do much else. Obviously his principal skill is of massive value, but if he's stopped from pilfering he's a bit of a passenger.</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);">I've long wondered why the greater impact on a game, all game long, of the likes of Schalk Burger, Thierry Dusatoir, the England loosies and Sir Richie has been so easily ignored when lovely Bono is the focus of discussion.</span></p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Chris B." data-cid="586696" data-time="1465650272"><p>He should be banned from the sideline for a week for that effort.</p></blockquote>
Tough call who to cheer for if him and Brown come to blows. <br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="586693" data-time="1465650036"><p>Very pleased with that - unsurprisingly. A win in Aus for us is rare and to put more points on them than the 2003 team is great too. However at no time did I feel comfortable until we got the turnover in the last minute. The try after that was just window dressing. Aus looked so bloody dangerous and every time Folau got the ball in anything that looked like space I was thinking about how to empty my colostomy bag.<br><br>
A big call from Mr Percentage to take of Burrell but our defensive pattern looked better straight away.<br><br>
Nathan Grey remains a complete cock.</p></blockquote>
Christ, do you think Burrell was yanked? I assumed he had a knock.<br><br>
Agree that we were much better without him though.<br><br>
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The forwards really fronted for England. Was actually good to watch. Haskell's best game in white IMO. <br><br>
There were as predicted, issues with the attack. Limited opportunities to put Yarde in space. But I did like that they tried to keep the ball alive more. Hopefully it is a sign of things to come under Steady. <br><br><br>
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<p>What an awesome game. Well done England, and all the Poms on here... ya jammy bastards!</p>
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<p>It's going to be a great series. England bashed us up in the middle 40 minutes and dictated the pace of the game. It was great to watch.</p>
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<p>I'm confident we can level the series next week, just need to iron out a few kinks. We created more than enough scoring chances, just need to defend better (and smarter).</p> -
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<p>39 points against Australia at home by a NH team.<br><br>
Is that a first?</p>
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<p>I think that is the most ever conceded by us at Suncorp/Lang Park. First time the Poms have ever won in Brisbane. Highest total the Poms have ever scored against us.</p>
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<p>Christ, do you think Burrell was yanked? I assumed he had a knock.<br><br>
Agree that we were much better without him though.<br><br>
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<p>That's my understanding. Harsh on Burrell who rarely lets us down but I'm just not so sure he fits in with what Jones is after. I also like the idea of two playmakers. Whether that is to be Ford and Farrell or not Im not sure.</p> -
<p>Thanks Sparky. Don't want to get carried away though.</p>
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<p>I mean it was only Australia. :fishing:</p> -
did not see the game and obviously he kicks and tackles but is Farrell really a playmaker? perhaps he learnt sonething from the RWC,,<br>
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<p>Farrell has been a cool, calm head at 10. Less so in contact but his play has mostly been controlled. He has always been a good kicker from hand and tee and also pretty unflappable. Sure he gets schizoid now and agin but the next minute he's mister control. His game control has been good and improving all the while, it was always his ability to set the back line alight and/or be a running threat himself that was suss. Over the last year and a bit he's been improving the last two aspects of his game very well. He's never going to be a natural but he won't be found wanting for lack of work ethic. At present he is our best option at 10 and a bloody good option at that. For choice I'd take an in form Cipriani or Ford over an in form Farrell but he is always in form. They are not.</p>
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<p>Hard to ignore.</p>
