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    @mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Chilly Bin full of Cantab Draft

    Hasn't production of CD stopped since the EQ? Locals care to inform -- google wasn't totally conclusive

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    @nzzp the brewery is long gone so if they are still making it it isn;t in chch

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @nzzp in fairness, i think FoBar cost more than the office sums, there was lots of talk about deferred payments and the like...and then the public forgot about it

    Good point. Best I can see is this: $266M - seems to include everything (not just construction cost)

    David Williams  /  Sep 10, 2018  /  Comment

    Be wary of Chch stadium estimates

    Be wary of Chch stadium estimates

    There might also be competition for construction workers, as the stadium build will cross over with the city’s metro sports centre

    Dunedin’s stadium history is instructive. The initial cost was put at $188 million. The final costs, including land purchases and external advice, pushed the total cost to $266 million. (The Otago Regional Council paid $37.5 million because of the perceived regional benefits of the stadium.)

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    @nzzp i thought i had heard over $300m but cant be bothered to look...still well short of $600m

    looking back FoBarr is a pretty good design, two free standing stands, the ends are bolted on, roof is connected to the main stand but not structurally, the two big columns in the corners hold up that side, could have been built pretty much the same without the roof if budget had changed

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    just build SoFi Stadium and steal every single event that comes to NZ, including every big test.

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    @Tim said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Need to be realistic and go for a mid-sized regional centre rugby venue.

    Which is eminently suitable given Christchurch is a mid-sized regional centre.

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/v2338d/lancaster_park_christchurch_in_2010/

    ah, the nostalgia...

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    It’s time for a good dose of CGI. Make the stadium affordable with 5000 seats and add the other 30000 spectators with computer graphics.

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    @mariner4life

    @mariner4life said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    this is not getting built. The Council don't want it, and now they have the perfect out, and they'll let the public make the decision for them.

    11 years and still not built. Now the price is likely too high. So sadly you might be right.

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    @kiwi_expat said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/v2338d/lancaster_park_christchurch_in_2010/

    ah, the nostalgia...

    I didn't like the refurbished Lancaster Park. I went to a test shortly after it opened and I felt too far away from the action. Also, even though it was a decent crowd, it seemed something was missing from the atmosphere. The whole stadium had a weird feel to me. I reckon it would have been a half arsed flop if it hadn't been damaged beyond repair.

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    @Crazy-Horse always thought the view, even from the top deck, was surprisingly good.

    The thing i wasnt a huge fan of was how open it was, not as in a roof over the pitch....but even the stands were only partially covered, the bottom deck was almost completely uncovered, and the ends were just open to nothing, a bit of structure (like the current one has) at either end would have been good

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    Stuff
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    It's bizarre how NZ just does not do stadiums without a whole lot of pussying around. Christchurch is going to end up with something very underwhelming I fear. Probably a cheap upgrade to the one at Addington knowing NZ.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    It's bizarre how NZ just does not do stadiums without a whole lot of pussying around. Christchurch is going to end up with something very underwhelming I fear. Probably a cheap upgrade to the one at Addington knowing NZ.

    A very good point here is how times are changing, live sport doesn't have the draw it used to. Conversely there is the feel good factor

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/128871705/actual-benefits-or-just-feel-good-factor-the-dilemma-of-christchurch-stadium

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    @Machpants said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    It's bizarre how NZ just does not do stadiums without a whole lot of pussying around. Christchurch is going to end up with something very underwhelming I fear. Probably a cheap upgrade to the one at Addington knowing NZ.

    A very good point here is how times are changing, live sport doesn't have the draw it used to. Conversely there is the feel good factor

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/128871705/actual-benefits-or-just-feel-good-factor-the-dilemma-of-christchurch-stadium

    i think the other side of things is elsewhere in the world, outside NZ and Aus, countries might have one national stadium that is owned by local or central government....but otherwise theyre privately owned by the sporting organisation that uses them or by the club/team

    kiwis also expect a lot..ballarat has over 100k population, so not much smaller than dunedin....ya dont see a 18k-30k covered stadium there

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    This Shit just gets worse,I am so angry at the Council for their procrastinating BS.
    Build the thing FFS you usless donkey faced Motherfuckers.

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    @Kiwiwomble I think Dunedin is a bit of an outlier - it was a bit of right-place right-time with the RWC and the stadium was relatively cheap.

    Townsville which is a similar size to Dunedin had their stadium rebuilt for a similar cost.

    Canberra is a similar size to Christchurch and they are pushing for a new stadium.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    kiwis also expect a lot..ballarat has over 100k population, so not much smaller than dunedin....ya dont see a 18k-30k covered stadium there

    Yeah, the Otago region didn't need a stadium like the one they built. That was a silly amount of money for the region.
    Yes, they needed to decommission Carisbrook and build a stadium within walking distance of where students live. But a roof was extravagant.

    Now Christchurch is feeling the need to compete with Dunedin. They have to have the best stadium in the South Island. There is some rationale to that too.. will Dunedin continue to get Test matches ahead of Christchurch etc?

    Everything would be perfectly fine if Dunedin and Christchurch had just built stadiums like FMG Stadium in Hamilton

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    @Duluth said in Stadium of Canterbury:

    Everything would be perfectly fine if Dunedin and Christchurch had just built stadiums like FMG Stadium in Hamilton

    Ain't that the truth. Chch was too ambitious in wanting a covered stadium to appease all parties, so the cost was always going to be a factor, and get costlier the longer it took to build.

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    @Bovidae Its ambitious and ignores the fact a hell of a lot has changed since construction was started on forsyth barr, earthquakes, COVID, war and just a general drop super rugby attendances

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