Super Rugby 2022
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@booboo said in Hurricanes v Reds:
I'm kind of worried that we rate ourselves (NZ teams) so highly and Aus teams so low.
But I've said that before and results continue to be one sided.
Just reminder.
Pride comes before a fall.
Think our teams have misunderestimated (
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Further ... I'm thinking our top XVs are better than theirs (not unbeatably so, but all things being equal), but our depth or lack thereof due to Exodus, is being exposed.
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@FakatavaFuture said in Super Rugby 2022:
@chimoaus the ward XV Moody, Coles, Isi tu'ungafasi, Selby Rickit, Strange, Frizell, Flanders, Iose, Nock, Ioane, Stevenson, ALB, Wrampling, Nanai Seturo, Love
That team could challenge a few sides no doubt, seems the Chiefs have been hit hard in the backs.
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@booboo said in Super Rugby 2022:
Further ... I'm thinking our top XVs are better than theirs (not unbeatably so, but all things being equal), but our depth or lack thereof due to Exodus, is being exposed.
fair.
Losses had a few second stringers -- but let's see results in a few weeks Some of the depth doesn't look strong at all -
@booboo said in Super Rugby 2022:
@booboo said in Hurricanes v Reds:
I'm kind of worried that we rate ourselves (NZ teams) so highly and Aus teams so low.
But I've said that before and results continue to be one sided.
Just reminder.
Pride comes before a fall.
Think our teams have misunderestimated (
) the Ockers.Having said that am reading a fair bit if triumphalism in Strayan Rugby Twitter.
I'd urge caution on both sides.
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Fairly confident the final will be contested between the two teams starting with 'B' however home advantage will be key, I could potentially see the Brumbies pipping Blues in a close one if they're forced to travel to Canberra, McKellar's record at GIO stadium (and also against the NZ franchises) is impressive. Superior to any Aussie coach's record versus Kiwi teams since McKenzie & White.
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Call it arrogant if you will but I am not too concerned about NZ team performances over the last two weeks.
We were deep into the comp after a diet of brutal derbies, Covid shuffles and short turnarounds with many niggles and injuries. The convict teams needed those home wins more than we did in many cases. What we needed was as many table points as we could muster while getting ready for the latter part of the RR and the finals.
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Hamish Dalzell gets 3 weeks.
Ray Nu'u gets 4 weeks.On the news last night it was mentioned that Barrett is the latest to get a 1 week reduction.
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@Bovidae Yep, that was in Barrett's decision. It isn't in Nu'u's second one.
For completeness, because it's not mentioned in the article. Samipeni Finau was issued a warning.
"Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles
and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,
Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the red card
threshold."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited aWarning as it was close to, but did not breach the red card threshold. The Foul Play Review
Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the tackler having lowered his
body height to effect the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."
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@Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2022:
@Bovidae Yep, that was in Barrett's decision. It isn't in Nu'u's second one.
For completeness, because it's not mentioned in the article. Samipeni Finau was issued a warning.
"Having conducted a detailed review of all the available evidence, including all camera angles
and additional evidence, including from the player and submissions from his legal representative,
Aaron Lloyd, the Foul Play Review Committee found the foul play did not breach the red card
threshold."
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited aWarning as it was close to, but did not breach the red card threshold. The Foul Play Review
Committee deemed that the significant mitigating factors, including the tackler having lowered his
body height to effect the tackle, mitigated the sanction to a Warning."
"The player is therefore free to resume playing.”So basically Jacobson was correct in querying the ref who had placed way to much emphasis on irrelevant factors. Saying that Finau’s situation was more dangerous than the earlier game decision because he (legally) came out of the defensive line was ridiculous.
The refs have well prescribed guidelines for mitigating and exacerbating factors and doing your job is not in either. -
I don't know if the coaching are worse overall than in the past or not. But Holland seems to be struggling big time but Canes have had poor head coaches in the fairly recent past. And starting out. Boyd was VG but in part he was lucky to have Plumtree as an assistant.
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@Winger i don't completely disagree, we put players in too early...just because Lomu could play with men doesn't make everyone lomu and NZR is becoming more and more a closed shop, in every aspect, coaching, players, everything and everyone already in that shop talking up everyone else
