How many Crusaders in your AB 23?
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None. When they pull on the Black Jersey they're ABs and no longer Crusaders.
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@Billy-Tell makes sense, although throughout the annals of time there's been the odd player i.e Scott Hamilton that felt just like a crusader somehow someway in a black jersey
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@taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Who really cares about the media, should have zero factoring in any selection decisions.
The sponsors care. A lot.
You might not care about his personal transgressions. I certainly don't in his case. But the All Blacks captain is the public face of the team.
So would you be happy NZ Rugby potentially losing millions of dollars through such a selection?
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@Chester-Draws said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Who really cares about the media, should have zero factoring in any selection decisions.
The sponsors care. A lot.
You might not care about his personal transgressions. I certainly don't in his case. But the All Blacks captain is the public face of the team.
So would you be happy NZ Rugby potentially losing millions of dollars through such a selection?
Holy overreaction batman.
Best player in the world selected as captain of All Blacks, OMG!
And we've never had a player who saw a bit of scandal become an AB captain and media personality.
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@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia pretty much. Has Cane?
B/S, Papali'i is in my 23 but Sat he was off the charts good, he hasn't been that good every match.
He's been off the charts in one or two other games, but consistently high. It's not BS.
I note you declined to comment how good Cane has been.
Cane has been great for a few games running, but we were discussing Papali'i's performance in Saturdays game in comparison to his previous ones.
I'm sure you'll get some support from the Aucklanders in the morning, I'm sharpening my keyboard for the onslaught, and Papali'i has been good this year, but Saturday was another level.
Not making a lot of sense to me - he was out of this world on Saturday, but because he was so good, we should exclude all the other games where he was excellent, just because he wasn't as good. Righto.
That's not what I said at all.
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@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia pretty much. Has Cane?
B/S, Papali'i is in my 23 but Sat he was off the charts good, he hasn't been that good every match.
He's been off the charts in one or two other games, but consistently high. It's not BS.
I note you declined to comment how good Cane has been.
Cane has been great for a few games running, but we were discussing Papali'i's performance in Saturdays game in comparison to his previous ones.
I'm sure you'll get some support from the Aucklanders in the morning, I'm sharpening my keyboard for the onslaught, and Papali'i has been good this year, but Saturday was another level.
Not making a lot of sense to me - he was out of this world on Saturday, but because he was so good, we should exclude all the other games where he was excellent, just because he wasn't as good. Righto.
That's not what I said at all.
He’s just assuming and going with it. It’s the fern way
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@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Bones said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Nepia pretty much. Has Cane?
B/S, Papali'i is in my 23 but Sat he was off the charts good, he hasn't been that good every match.
He's been off the charts in one or two other games, but consistently high. It's not BS.
I note you declined to comment how good Cane has been.
Cane has been great for a few games running, but we were discussing Papali'i's performance in Saturdays game in comparison to his previous ones.
I'm sure you'll get some support from the Aucklanders in the morning, I'm sharpening my keyboard for the onslaught, and Papali'i has been good this year, but Saturday was another level.
Not making a lot of sense to me - he was out of this world on Saturday, but because he was so good, we should exclude all the other games where he was excellent, just because he wasn't as good. Righto.
That's not what I said at all.
Go on then, what did you say?
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@gt12 said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
And we've never had a player who saw a bit of scandal become an AB captain and media personality.
Muliaina was never "All Black Captain". He was occasional on-field captain, as a reward for long service. That's a very different thing.
Aaron Smith is a very good rugby player. He is also not suited to be the public face of a very high profile team. They're different roles.
And it's not my over-reaction. I just recognise what sponsors want. And indeed, demand.
On top of that, he's in exactly the same position as Cane -- no longer a certainty to start in the RWC. So making him captain does not solve the problem, it merely repeats it. Especially since he will be replaced quite early in a lot of games regardless.
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@Chester-Draws said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
On top of that, he's in exactly the same position as Cane -- no longer a certainty to start in the RWC.
Disagree strongly. He's clearly the best halfback in New Zealand and relative form doesn't suggest that will change in the next 18 months.
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@Chester-Draws if Aaron Smith isn’t a certainty then we have massive problems ahead.
He’s still a class above.
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@FakatavaFuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Billy-Tell makes sense, although throughout the annals of time there's been the odd player i.e Scott Hamilton that felt just like a crusader somehow someway in a black jersey
Something about digestible head wear ...
Edit: or was that Sam Broomhall?
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@booboo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@FakatavaFuture said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Billy-Tell makes sense, although throughout the annals of time there's been the odd player i.e Scott Hamilton that felt just like a crusader somehow someway in a black jersey
Something about digestible head wear ...
Edit: or was that Sam Broomhall?
FABSH was one of the few predictions that came to fruition!
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LOL
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@Damo Codie Taylor was poor, missed a crucial tackle and poor throwing, Ethan Blackadder was anonymous.
I thought Reece was one of thier better players.
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@taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Damo Codie Taylor was poor, missed a crucial tackle and poor throwing, Ethan Blackadder were anonymous.
I thought Reece was one of thier better players.
Blackadder didn't play lol
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@taniwharugby said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
@Damo Codie Taylor was poor, missed a crucial tackle and poor throwing, Ethan Blackadder was anonymous.
I thought Reece was one of thier better players.
Yeah blackadder. Could make it.
Reece is popular but I don't really rate him. I don't have him in my 23.
Codie needs to get back to his best. He mightht be past it.
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@Damo said in How many Crusaders in your AB 23?:
Reece is popular but I don't really rate him. I don't have him in my 23.
I like his workrate and his ability to pop up in the right place, he seems to read the game pretty well, his biggest issue is that he can often miss some easy tackles.
I also dont get the glee some get in the saders losing, for me, I want every single NZ team to win over any foreign opposition, although MP & the Drua have created a conundrum there as I want both to do well.
