Scotland v England
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@sparky said in Scotland v England:
What she didn't realise was that most of the Scots Rugby team are Unionists so some of them pissed in there first.
I don’t follow international politics, in fact I barely follow NZ politics, but I know this is funny so I’ll give it an upvote.
I’m assuming this is as cringy as all the times John Key went and had beers with the ABs after the game ?
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@crucial said in Scotland v England:
@sparky said in Scotland v England:
@mn5 said in Scotland v England:
@crucial said in Scotland v England:
The second most punchable face in England looking like a stunned mullet.
Cowan-Dickie can own that loss. What a brain fart
He’ll never have to buy a beer in Scotland ever again
Can't see many Scots buying beers for anyone else, especially not English men.
Tired old cliche.
I have spent many an afternoon in the pub in Scotland with no evidence of that being the case. In fact in many places you end up with a row of drams in front of you as punters spend their change on the drop of the day bowser and the barman distributes them.
Serious drinkers are the Scots.No. Tight as anything. Agrees by my Scottish friends too.
Really good match. England lost it more than the jocks won.
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@sparky said in Scotland v England:
Can't imagine many Scots buying beers for anyone else, especially not an Englishman.
I've heard the Jocks are great hosts after a Calcutta Cup.
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@victor-meldrew said in Scotland v England:
@sparky said in Scotland v England:
Can't imagine many Scots buying beers for anyone else, especially not an Englishman.
I've heard the Jocks are great hosts after a Calcutta Cup.
It's a great night out in Edinburgh after any game (including those against the English). Years of learning to be gracious losers.
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@majorrage said in Scotland v England:
@crucial said in Scotland v England:
@sparky said in Scotland v England:
@mn5 said in Scotland v England:
@crucial said in Scotland v England:
The second most punchable face in England looking like a stunned mullet.
Cowan-Dickie can own that loss. What a brain fart
He’ll never have to buy a beer in Scotland ever again
Can't see many Scots buying beers for anyone else, especially not English men.
Tired old cliche.
I have spent many an afternoon in the pub in Scotland with no evidence of that being the case. In fact in many places you end up with a row of drams in front of you as punters spend their change on the drop of the day bowser and the barman distributes them.
Serious drinkers are the Scots.No. Tight as anything. Agrees by my Scottish friends too.
Really good match. England lost it more than the jocks won.
Copper wire was invented by two Scotsmen fighting over a penny so the legend goes.
It is a bit of a harsh cliche though, Indians and Asians are much tighter with their money
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@bones said in Scotland v England:
@nzzp I didn't have a problem with it once I saw it and the correct call was made.
4 minutes to set a scrum however....
Nah. Bloke goes up in the air to catch a cross kick, gets it wrong/is slightly impeded and knocks it on. Bollocks to that result. When they were going to the TMO, I thought hang on that's a bit unfair, the Jock was going for the ball and didn't really impact things, this is bullshit and then fuck me it goes the other way. PT and a yellow. That was complete bollocks. Oh and only a penalty five minute later for a dangerous neck roll.
Ben O'Keefe is a poor ref and not helped by his reliance on third officials.
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@catogrande said in Scotland v England:
@bones said in Scotland v England:
@nzzp I didn't have a problem with it once I saw it and the correct call was made.
4 minutes to set a scrum however....
Nah. Bloke goes up in the air to catch a cross kick, gets it wrong/is slightly impeded and knocks it on. Bollocks to that result. When they were going to the TMO, I thought hang on that's a bit unfair, the Jock was going for the ball and didn't really impact things, this is bullshit and then fuck me it goes the other way. PT and a yellow. That was complete bollocks. Oh and only a penalty five minute later for a dangerous neck roll.
Ben O'Keefe is a poor ref and not helped by his reliance on third officials.
That’s just wrong. He made zero attempt to catch, knocked it forward on purpose.
Your problem is with the rules, not the ref.
(Need a wash now)
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@catogrande said in Scotland v England:
@bones said in Scotland v England:
@nzzp I didn't have a problem with it once I saw it and the correct call was made.
4 minutes to set a scrum however....
Nah. Bloke goes up in the air to catch a cross kick, gets it wrong/is slightly impeded and knocks it on. Bollocks to that result. When they were going to the TMO, I thought hang on that's a bit unfair, the Jock was going for the ball and didn't really impact things, this is bullshit and then fuck me it goes the other way. PT and a yellow. That was complete bollocks. Oh and only a penalty five minute later for a dangerous neck roll.
Ben O'Keefe is a poor ref and not helped by his reliance on third officials.
Watch again in a week and your view might be less clouded.
LCD quite obviously played the ball by batting it away. Deliberate knock forward AND deliberately making ball dead. No attempt to catch it at all.As for the neck roll? That was the harsh call but happy to live with it for safety sake if that is a consistent call. I couldn’t see any head/neck contact of consequence myself. More a seatbelt throw. Needs to be discouraged though.
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So, not read the thread yet
- Ben reffed bloody well
- Ben Young is even worse than Jamieson. The only thing he can do is kick, and fucking badly. How much attacking possession in the red zone did he waste? Really this lost then the game, young kicking away attacking ball. There are some far too old nines in NH rugby.
- A lot of England's tight five are hot heads. It needs to be a tactic of the opposition to wind them up. Easy penalties, not used enough by Scotland.
- Russell and hogg are good to watch.
- Did Itoje play?
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Thought Scotland back 3 had the winning of the match with some great runs but sloppy passing and needless penalties kept England well in it. Marler's throw in was a critical error for me. England looked the better side in most of the close exchanges and could have ground it out I felt. Well reffed by BOK. His correct overrule of Berry lineout call at the end was critical.
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@catogrande said in Scotland v England:
@bones said in Scotland v England:
@nzzp I didn't have a problem with it once I saw it and the correct call was made.
4 minutes to set a scrum however....
Nah. Bloke goes up in the air to catch a cross kick, gets it wrong/is slightly impeded and knocks it on. Bollocks to that result. When they were going to the TMO, I thought hang on that's a bit unfair, the Jock was going for the ball and didn't really impact things, this is bullshit and then fuck me it goes the other way. PT and a yellow. That was complete bollocks. Oh and only a penalty five minute later for a dangerous neck roll.
Ben O'Keefe is a poor ref and not helped by his reliance on third officials.
Cato, you sound like us All Black fans after a loss.
I'd only argue against the PT on the slight possibility that the winger wouldn't have caught it.
Deliberate knock forward (see a knock up can be as illegal as a knock down ... ), and deliberately propelled into touch.
Take the offender out of the equation and the winger walks it in.
I feel your pain though.
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Looool that's a terrible loss for England. In front at 65 minutes dominating every facet of the game against a Scottish team who had nothing in attack. And they lose.
Ben Youngs the biggest culprit, but he's not alone in that backline. Attacking opportunity after attacking opportunity kicked away with shitty grubbers or rubbish box kicks. The backline attack was lateral shuffle lateral shuffle kick. Just shit.
England forwards pretty good without really beating their opposition out of the game. But the England backs take the blame here, Eddie outsmarting himself again?
Poor game in terms of skill and execution but at least the end was fun.
Scotland win with grit and little else.
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@machpants said in Scotland v England:
So, not read the thread yet
- Ben reffed bloody well
- Ben Young is even worse than Jamieson. The only thing he can do is kick, and fucking badly. How much attacking possession in the red zone did he waste? Really this lost then the game, young kicking away attacking ball. There are some far too old nines in NH rugby.
- A lot of England's tight five are hot heads. It needs to be a tactic of the opposition to wind them up. Easy penalties, not used enough by Scotland.
- Russell and hogg are good to watch.
- Did Itoje play?
That's an Eddie thing that he actively encourages. When people have pointed out to him in the past that Itoje concentrates too much on being a dick instead of just playing the game he has said that he wants him to be like that.
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@mariner4life said in Scotland v England:
Looool that's a terrible loss for England. In front at 65 minutes dominating every facet of the game against a Scottish team who had nothing in attack. And they lose.
Ben Youngs the biggest culprit, but he's not alone in that backline. Attacking opportunity after attacking opportunity kicked away with shitty grubbers or rubbish box kicks. The backline attack was lateral shuffle lateral shuffle kick. Just shit.
England forwards pretty good without really beating their opposition out of the game. But the England backs take the blame here, Eddie outsmarting himself again?
Poor game in terms of skill and execution but at least the end was fun.
Scotland win with grit and little else.
I just watched the Mini replay on Stan, so didn't get the full picture.
But several times the comms mentioned the "numberless" England backline, ie., they were interchangeable and I guess just a picking of the best players and squeezing them onto the paddock. That never works.
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@mariner4life said in Scotland v England:
Looool that's a terrible loss for England. In front at 65 minutes dominating every facet of the game against a Scottish team who had nothing in attack. And they lose.
Ben Youngs the biggest culprit, but he's not alone in that backline. Attacking opportunity after attacking opportunity kicked away with shitty grubbers or rubbish box kicks. The backline attack was lateral shuffle lateral shuffle kick. Just shit.
England forwards pretty good without really beating their opposition out of the game. But the England backs take the blame here, Eddie outsmarting himself again?
Poor game in terms of skill and execution but at least the end was fun.
Scotland win with grit and little else.
They traditionally lose with grit so that’s a step in the right direction at least.
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@mariner4life said in Scotland v England:
Looool that's a terrible loss for England. In front at 65 minutes dominating every facet of the game against a Scottish team who had nothing in attack. And they lose.
Ben Youngs the biggest culprit, but he's not alone in that backline. Attacking opportunity after attacking opportunity kicked away with shitty grubbers or rubbish box kicks. The backline attack was lateral shuffle lateral shuffle kick. Just shit.
England forwards pretty good without really beating their opposition out of the game. But the England backs take the blame here, Eddie outsmarting himself again?
Poor game in terms of skill and execution but at least the end was fun.
Scotland win with grit and little else.
About right
