All Blacks vs USA
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:
Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".
Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.
Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
We have had plenty of touring players disappear from future squads after playing second tier teams.Absolutely spot on.
Another plus is it gives the game credibility in the US and helps it grow there.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:
@kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:
@machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?
Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey
Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?
Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.
Man these kind of posts get tedious.
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Don't quite get why BB is needed. I would have thought that Reece needs more play and it is another chance to use DMac as a utility. Despite the claims from some that he 'still does the same thing' I think his pivot game has come on hugely. He gets the backs moving forward by delivering nicely weighted passes right in front of them to run on to (something that BB especially struggles with)
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@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
Don't quite get why BB is needed.
That was my first thought too. I can only assume that the 1st 5 position for the Welsh test is still up for grabs and that BB will play decent minutes in the game at 10. Obviously the quality of the opposition won't tell us much.
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@bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:
@crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:
Don't quite get why BB is needed.
That was my first thought too. I can only assume that the 1st 5 position for the Welsh test is still up for grabs and that BB will play decent minutes in the game at 10. Obviously that quality of the opposition won't tell us much.
That's the reason I thought as well. IF BB travels straight away that is a signal to RM that he has already lost the competition.
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@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs USA:
- Ethan de Groot (2)
- Asafo Aumua (4)
- Angus Ta’avao (19)
- Samuel Whitelock (127) - captain
- Tupou Vaa’i (7)
- Luke Jacobson (10)
- Dalton Papalii (9)
- Hoskins Sotutu (8)
- Finlay Christie (3)
- Richie Mo’unga (27)
- George Bridge (16)
- Quinn Tupaea (4)
- Braydon Ennor (2)
- Will Jordan (9)
- Damian McKenzie (37)
- Dane Coles (76)
- George Bower (8)
- Tyrel Lomax (10)
- Josh Lord - new cap
- Sam Cane (74)
- TJ Perenara (75)
- Beauden Barrett (98)
- Anton Lienert-Brown (53)
That’s an abortion of a team. Not worthy of the name.
Any UK coverage anybody know?
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@majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:
@daffy-jaffy said in All Blacks vs USA:
- Ethan de Groot (2)
- Asafo Aumua (4)
- Angus Ta’avao (19)
- Samuel Whitelock (127) - captain
- Tupou Vaa’i (7)
- Luke Jacobson (10)
- Dalton Papalii (9)
- Hoskins Sotutu (8)
- Finlay Christie (3)
- Richie Mo’unga (27)
- George Bridge (16)
- Quinn Tupaea (4)
- Braydon Ennor (2)
- Will Jordan (9)
- Damian McKenzie (37)
- Dane Coles (76)
- George Bower (8)
- Tyrel Lomax (10)
- Josh Lord - new cap
- Sam Cane (74)
- TJ Perenara (75)
- Beauden Barrett (98)
- Anton Lienert-Brown (53)
That’s an abortion of a team. Not worthy of the name.
Yes every team must always and without exception consist of the top 23. Development is a dirty word.
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@majorrage said in All Blacks vs USA:
That’s an abortion of a team. Not worthy of the name.
A bit insulting.
I'm sure Josh Lord's parents feel very differently.
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This is the sort of fixture where Will Jordan could score a million points.
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@arhs to be fair it could be his only opportunity this tour unless injuries strike. He deserves another crack after his performance against Argentina.
The one hooker that needs to lift his game is Codie Taylor, I think Samisoni has really put the pressure on him this year so it will be interesting to see what happens as the tour progresses. Samisoni will start a test at some point, probably against the Italians.
