• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

All Blacks vs USA

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
allblacksusa
383 Posts 59 Posters 17.1k Views
All Blacks vs USA
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • mariner4lifeM Online
    mariner4lifeM Online
    mariner4life
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #10

    @stargazer said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @mariner4life They read the Fern and notice the insecurity and stress some Ferners are suffering from if they don't know the exact time and date of the announcement.

    we could wheel out Hawkes Bay B and horsewhip the US, who gives a fuck?

    JCJ 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • KirwanK Offline
    KirwanK Offline
    Kirwan
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #11

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @stargazer said in All Blacks vs USA:

    is there anything more 2021 than an announcement of a pending announcement?

    Somewhere Aunt Cindy is shaking her head at them releasing too much information in their announcement announcement.

    1 Reply Last reply
    9
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    Any other ideas on team? This is what we had from another thread

    1. Ethan DeGroot

    2. Samisoni Taukei’aho

    3. Tyrel Lomax

    4. Sam Whitelock

    5. Tupou Vaa’i

    6. Ethan Blackadder

    7. Sam Cane

    8. Hoskins Sotutu

    9. Finlay Christie

    10. Richie Mounga

    11. George Bridge

    12. Quinn Tupaea

    13. Braydon Ennor

    14. Will Jordan

    15. Damian McKenzie

    16. Dane Coles

    17. Karl Tu’inukuafe

    18. Angus Ta'avao

    19. Josh Lord

    20. Shannon Frizell

    21. Brad Weber

    22. Rieko Ioane/ALB/Havili

    23. Sevu Reece

    Could obviously swap some reserves/starters around (eg Coles/Samisoni and Frizzell/Blackadder).

    Havent thought through the combos they may like to try at stages of the game either which could dictate bench strategy. eg does DMac start and move to 10 and maybe Jordan shifts to 15?

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • BovidaeB Offline
    BovidaeB Offline
    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by
    #13

    Papalii is fit again so he might start at 6 with Cane and Sotutu. Frizell to be the other loose forward in the 23.

    CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #14

    @bovidae said in All Blacks vs USA:

    Papalii is fit again so he might start at 6 with Cane and Sotutu. Frizell to be the other loose forward in the 23.

    Good call.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Frizzle has an injury, dunno if he'll be alright.

    CrucialC TimT 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #16

    @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

    Frizzle has an injury, dunno if he'll be alright.

    Waste of space.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #17

    @machpants So it's looking like:

    4 Whitelock
    5 Vaai
    6 Papalii
    7 Cane
    8 Sotutu

    19 Lord
    20 Jacobson

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • antipodeanA Online
    antipodeanA Online
    antipodean
    wrote on last edited by
    #18

    Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

    CrucialC 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    replied to antipodean on last edited by
    #19

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

    Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

    Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

    Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.
    That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.
    In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.
    We have had plenty of touring players disappear from future squads after playing second tier teams.

    antipodeanA Victor MeldrewV 2 Replies Last reply
    13
  • CrucialC Offline
    CrucialC Offline
    Crucial
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    Frank Halai, Francis Saili and Dom Bird would all agree that you need to show test qualities against 'lesser' teams and not treat them as 'exhibitions'.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • antipodeanA Online
    antipodeanA Online
    antipodean
    replied to Crucial on last edited by
    #21

    @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

    Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

    Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

    Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

    Of course they can, amongst their tier.

    That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

    It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

    In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

    Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

    MN5M 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to antipodean on last edited by MN5
    #22

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

    Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

    Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

    Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

    Of course they can, amongst their tier.

    That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

    It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

    In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

    Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

    South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.

    KiwiwombleK 1 Reply Last reply
    8
  • KiwiwombleK Offline
    KiwiwombleK Offline
    Kiwiwomble
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #23

    @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @crucial said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs USA:

    Playing teams like the USA should be treated like mid-weekers. No one should get a Test cap for this "demonstration effort".

    Disagree. That is like the insults NZ Cricket used to get for decades.

    Just because you aren't a top tier test team doesn't mean you don't deserve to play tests.

    Of course they can, amongst their tier.

    That's the point. You are testing yourselves against another team. That's how you get better and just one reason why the ABs won't be playing a 'demonstration'.

    It is a demonstration. They lost to Uruguay.

    In fact those playing need to show they are worthy of the jersey they are wearing.

    Like they used to do in mid-weekers? USA are so bad, there's no way we're going to learn anything new about players. An opposed training run would provide more structure.

    South African fans probably said something like this on their version of the fern just before they lost to Japan for the first time.

    and im pretty sure we did before the argentina game last year, "these guys haven't played for nearly a year, probably only have 60mins in them etc"

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    wrote on last edited by
    #24

    “The only player’s that not available is Shannon Frizell, who’s still recovering from a knock that he got with the [ Ta$man] side a couple of weeks ago but apart from that, everyone else is good,” Plumtree confirmedd

    KiwiwombleK FrankF 2 Replies Last reply
    0
  • KiwiwombleK Offline
    KiwiwombleK Offline
    Kiwiwomble
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #25

    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

    M 1 Reply Last reply
    5
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    replied to Kiwiwomble on last edited by
    #26

    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

    Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

    MN5M antipodeanA 2 Replies Last reply
    5
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #27

    @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

    Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

    Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

    M 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • M Offline
    M Offline
    Machpants
    replied to MN5 on last edited by
    #28

    @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

    Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

    Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

    Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

    MN5M BonesB Billy TellB 3 Replies Last reply
    2
  • MN5M Online
    MN5M Online
    MN5
    replied to Machpants on last edited by
    #29

    @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @mn5 said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @machpants said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs USA:

    @machpants seriously, there were already big question marks around him being in the team...and we've still taken him even though he had an injury before leaving?

    Yeah I certainly would not have the prat anywhere near a black jersey

    Sevu Reece is in the team though, what are your thoughts on him ?

    Not a fan, can add samisoni to that as well, Reece is a double: a poach and a wife beater.

    Cool just checking you weren’t playing favourites 😉

    1 Reply Last reply
    0

All Blacks vs USA
Rugby Matches
allblacksusa
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.