All Blacks vs Springboks I
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I have no problem with the way the Boks play, and do not want to see all teams trying to play exactly the same game plan.
This game was a great contrast in style, and it wasn't crap because of the Boks, it was crap because we just continued to drop the bloody ball leading to stoppage after stoppage which played into their hands. We just have to be a damn sight more accurate.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@tim said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
A lot of scrum penalties against us when we are going marginally forward, this year. What's the story?
Set piece rather poor tonight.
Ref seemed to see our props after they'd been folded in by theirs.
Suspect ref may be sitting in some uncomfortable reviews this week.
My issue with ref (possibly already mentioned. I haven’t read through thread) was that he was compliant toward the Bok way of playing - every stoppage had him asking them to hurry up but he never enforced it. That’s Ok if he also allows us to play our style. He never made a quick mark for a penalty, blew up the advantage quickly without another infringement or even had a word about negative tactics throwing the ball away.
Every team just wants the chance to play their game. He allowed the boks theirs but not us.
When TJ called him out about them slowing the game at a penalty he even said “they aren’t slowing things down, I am”
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@chimoaus if prior to set piece and a prop or hooker it doesn't make it as simple
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
I have no problem with the way the Boks play, and do not want to see all teams trying to play exactly the same game plan.
This game was a great contrast in style, and it wasn't crap because of the Boks, it was crap because we just continued to drop the bloody ball leading to stoppage after stoppage which played into their hands. We just have to be a damn sight more accurate.
I have no problem with them playing that way because it makes them much more beatable. Shit we beat them yesterday and could barely string 3 phases together. They can be insanely good when they play proper rugby and the shit they can do can be downright scary at times. If they want to play within themselves and deliver this dross then so be it.
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@machpants biggest mystery is how Bridge got 4, probably about 3 more than i would have given him .
Great to see Blackadder rate so high, thought he was one of our better forwards.
If i had seen these ratings before knowing the score, i would have thought the worst …will take this result every day of the week and twice on Sunday ..
And besides its 36 wins to the Boks, 4 x draws ,and 60 wins to the good guys , thats a decent win rate . -
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Not sure about the subs, but actual realistic points. Unlike NZH all around 6 and 7
Yeah that was pretty spot on except for Jordan. He did some good things but farked up several times. Not Bridge bad but pretty farking close to it.
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@machpants biggest mystery is how Bridge got 4, probably about 3 more than i would have given him .
Great to see Blackadder rate so high, thought he was one of our better forwards.
If i had seen these ratings before knowing the score, i would have thought the worst …will take this result every day of the week and twice on Sunday ..
And besides its 36 wins to the Boks, 4 x draws ,and 60 wins to the good guys , thats a decent win rate .The Boks had more wins prior to their isolation didn’t they ? Fair to say the ABs have done a bit better in th pro era.
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@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Not sure about the subs, but actual realistic points. Unlike NZH all around 6 and 7
LOL at those rankings. Rieko the same as Bridge?
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This was from an article about the 100th test and rivalry between the teams.
Up until 1981, the All Blacks had won just 15 of 37 (40.54 per cent), but post-apartheid, the difference is stark. The men in black have triumphed in 44 of 62 (70.97 per cent) since the teams reconvened in 1992.
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@african-monkey we missed PSdT and Kolbey. Don't get better then them
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@machpants said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Not sure about the subs, but actual realistic points. Unlike NZH all around 6 and 7
LOL at those rankings. Rieko the same as Bridge?
Watched the game on my phone in a noisy pub with a few beers under my belt. Can't say I noticed Rieko at all. Good or bad. Unfortunately I noticed Bridge.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@chimoaus if prior to set piece and a prop or hooker it doesn't make it as simple
Yeah, makes it difficult, I 'don't know the answer but I hope they can figure it out. Are there any refs who call bullshit more than others?
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@no-quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
I have no problem with the way the Boks play, and do not want to see all teams trying to play exactly the same game plan.
This game was a great contrast in style, and it wasn't crap because of the Boks, it was crap because we just continued to drop the bloody ball leading to stoppage after stoppage which played into their hands. We just have to be a damn sight more accurate.
I have no problem with them playing that way because it makes them much more beatable. Shit we beat them yesterday and could barely string 3 phases together. They can be insanely good when they play proper rugby and the shit they can do can be downright scary at times. If they want to play within themselves and deliver this dross then so be it.
You spelled passes wrong
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@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@steven-harris said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
@machpants biggest mystery is how Bridge got 4, probably about 3 more than i would have given him .
Great to see Blackadder rate so high, thought he was one of our better forwards.
If i had seen these ratings before knowing the score, i would have thought the worst …will take this result every day of the week and twice on Sunday ..
And besides its 36 wins to the Boks, 4 x draws ,and 60 wins to the good guys , thats a decent win rate .The Boks had more wins prior to
their isolationneutral referees didn’t they ? Fair to say the ABs have done a bit better in th pro era.FIFY
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Another thing to show the ref had no feel for the game was how often he was in the way of players running or passing or they had to adjust what they were doing with him in thier line or peripheral.
I said it during the game, he was a great lazy runner. I'm surprised he didn't get hit with a pass. Maybe that was how bad TJs pass was that he didn't hit him...
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Congrats to ABs on the pretty tense win 👍🏻 Jordie really played very well. Blackadder was a pretty busy guy too. Siya Kwagga and Eben were great for us I thought and generally our forwards looked better than Oz games. Lots of errors both sides and neither team really got control going. Surprised it didn’t open up at least a bit in last 20 or so and automaton kicking right to the death was just weird…umm STUPID... Wonder what lineup changes we will have for last one… Surely there will be a lot now and hopefully a very different game awaits …🤞🏻
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@mantissanet I think they should start Jantjies and give Pollard a rest.
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@mantissanet said in All Blacks vs Springboks I:
Congrats to ABs on the pretty tense win 👍🏻 Jordie really played very well. Blackadder was a pretty busy guy too. Siya Kwagga and Eben were great for us I thought and generally our forwards looked better than Oz games. Lots of errors both sides and neither team really got control going. Surprised it didn’t open up at least a bit in last 20 or so and automaton kicking right to the death was just weird…umm STUPID... Wonder what lineup changes we will have for last one… Surely there will be a lot now and hopefully a very different game awaits …🤞🏻
Didn't mind seeing him dragged.
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