All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III
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@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Reading your posts there Kirwan you seem to take the Akira thing personally. There will always be differences of opinion on an anonymous internet forum, can't spend spend your life waiting to feel "justified" with your viewpoints. Well you could I suppose, but it'll be never ending.
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@billy-tell said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Reading your posts there Kirwan you seem to take the Akira thing personally. There will always be differences of opinion on an anonymous internet forum, can't spend spend your life waiting to feel "justified" with your viewpoints. Well you could I suppose, but it'll be never ending.
No, I just enjoy arguing on a .... looks around .... discussion forum.
Not sure why so many people struggle with that concept.
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@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@billy-tell said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Reading your posts there Kirwan you seem to take the Akira thing personally. There will always be differences of opinion on an anonymous internet forum, can't spend spend your life waiting to feel "justified" with your viewpoints. Well you could I suppose, but it'll be never ending.
No, I just enjoy arguing on a .... looks around .... discussion forum.
Not sure why so many people struggle with that concept.
Like you didn't adopt yourself as their mum a couple of years ago!
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
3 missed tackles is atrocious.
Rugbypass generally speaking have the shittiest stats.
ESPN has him making 10 and missing 1 (with one turnover conceded).
Using their stats, most tackles missed:
Weber made 6 and missed 4
Scot Barrett made 13 and missed 2 (2 Turnovers conceded too)
Havili made 14 and missed 2 (1 turnover)
Savea made 9 and missed 2
Taukeiaho made 7, missed 2
Big Karl made 4, missed 2
Ta'Avao made 7, missed 2 -
@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
3 missed tackles is atrocious.
Rugbypass generally speaking have the shittiest stats.
ESPN has him making 10 and missing 1 (with one turnover conceded).
Using their stats, most tackles missed:
Weber made 6 and missed 4
Scot Barrett made 13 and missed 2 (2 Turnovers conceded too)
Havili made 14 and missed 2 (1 turnover)
Savea made 9 and missed 2
Taukeiaho made 7, missed 2
Big Karl made 4, missed 2
Ta'Avao made 7, missed 2I think you have to take every website that is not offically used by the teams themselves with a grain of salt. There is no way I am going to waste my time to count or even take the due diligence on data governance to consider and apply consistently what is a tackle etc, what is a missed tackle. As I am sure its different on each as well and unless you know each definition
Eitherway all have Akira missing some in their own defintions.. therefore he must have played terribly. ha ha...tui ad for the day ........yeah right
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@gt12 in case it wasn't clear, I was the being the opposite of completely serious.
Thanks for the stats though, interesting to see such a high count for Ta'avao, seems to have a high workrate - to the point where he got out of the ruck too quick and made himself a target!
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@gt12 in case it wasn't clear, I was the being the opposite of completely serious.
Thanks for the stats though, interesting to see such a high count for Ta'avao, seems to have a high workrate - to the point where he got out of the ruck too quick and made himself a target!
I was just getting in before @Kirwan came and decided to swing the ban hammer
I figured you were probably the piss but I was also trying to think of when and where those tackles were missed, so went for a squiz at ESPN (who are also bad, but not as bad as Rugbypass).
I'd love to know what a license to the Opta stats (or a better service with ruck attendance etc. ) costs. Just trying to figure about how to fold that into a grant proposal.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@bones said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@gt12 in case it wasn't clear, I was the being the opposite of completely serious.
Thanks for the stats though, interesting to see such a high count for Ta'avao, seems to have a high workrate - to the point where he got out of the ruck too quick and made himself a target!
I was just getting in before @Kirwan came and decided to swing the ban hammer
I figured you were probably the piss but I was also trying to think of when and where those tackles were missed, so went for a squiz at ESPN (who are also bad, but not as bad as Rugbypass).
I'd love to know what a license to the Opta stats (or a better service with ruck attendance etc. ) costs. Just trying to figure about how to fold that into a grant proposal.
me mate the coach, says while they had Opta at both his last gigs, they only used them for very generic stuff, and always trusted their own analyst much more - they also tracked a whole heap of stuff that Opta wasn't able to provide.
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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@billy-tell said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@kirwan said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@frank said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderImagine the scenes if Akira actually wins this.
Who actually doesn't want him in the team anymore?
dude you know there is a whole cohort just waiting for a mistake so they can pile back in about attitude and workrate and other madeup stuff. Same for his brother.
Yep, it's notable a couple of previous critics on here that can't even compliment him (many have to be fair).
The most pleasing thing for me last night was Akira's breaks were in the backend of the game. Puts to bed any fitness or workrate bullshit.
Reading your posts there Kirwan you seem to take the Akira thing personally. There will always be differences of opinion on an anonymous internet forum, can't spend spend your life waiting to feel "justified" with your viewpoints. Well you could I suppose, but it'll be never ending.
No, I just enjoy arguing on a .... looks around .... discussion forum.
Not sure why so many people struggle with that concept.
Like you didn't adopt yourself as their mum a couple of years ago!
Difference is, unlike Stargazer, I'm not pretending I don't have favourites.
Might be time for a new Avatar, been a while.
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@bayimports said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Perhaps he didnt get 10 out of 10 because he missed a couple of tackles?, rugby pass has a couple more stats. In the context of the game, he was on another level to most
Interestingly I hear Scott Barrett our top tackler???
Fake news, unless of course you can produce a fancy graphic that has an action shot of Scott and large bolded numbers with his stats
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@nepia said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@machpants said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
and now he’s starting to put a couple of games together
Now this a disingenuous comment from Fozzie ... if you and your former co-fatty in charge had actually selected him earlier he would have had a chance to put a couple of games together.
To be fair to Foster, he could hardly overrule Shag on team selection. It's under Foster that Akira has been given the chance to lock-in the 6 jersey and he deserves some credit for that.
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@victor-meldrew said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@nepia said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
@machpants said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
and now he’s starting to put a couple of games together
Now this a disingenuous comment from Fozzie ... if you and your former co-fatty in charge had actually selected him earlier he would have had a chance to put a couple of games together.
To be fair to Foster, he could hardly overrule Shag on team selection. It's under Foster that Akira has been given the chance to lock-in the 6 jersey and he deserves some credit for that.
Under Shag, Cane got left out of the starting line-up of a WC semi-final.
Foster says 'meet the new captain'
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@gt12 said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Under Shag, Cane got left out of the starting line-up of a WC semi-final.
Yeah, the one bloke who would have caused England serious problems from the word go.
That loss still rankles with me - and not just for the Cane omission. Some of the dumbest play I've seen from an AB team for years, mainly from the senior players
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@duluth said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus III:
Current standings:
12 Akira Ioane
10 Sam Whitelock
9 Aaron Smith
9 Dalton Papali'i
8 David Havili
6 Luke Jacobson
5 Dane Coles
5 Will Jordan
3 Codie Taylor
3 Richie Mo'unga
2 Sevu Reece
1 Rieko Ioane
1 Damian McKenzie
1 Ethan BlackadderSam Whitelock-very impressive to still be up there (second) when he didn't play all 3-Perhaps points should be averaged over games?
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