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    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

    @booboo said in All Blacks 2021:

    @arhs said in All Blacks 2021:

    I expected to see Harry Plummer added to the squad. Maybe good for Ofa T to be training over there if level 4 continues in Auckland.

    As 10? Ehh... like him but not sure he's the next best 10 option. Hunt for me.

    I agree Hunt is next best as a starter but thought they might break in someone slowly with a longer term view. I think Plummer has improved a lot this year. Should be playing 10 all the time I feel.

    It’s probably time the AB selectors start looking to develop another ten. After the top two there isn’t much depth. We’re are an injury or two away from sub standard options

    Like 2011

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    @gt12 It's not too awful. How many other teams have even two test-class first fives? We've got a World Player of the Year, who's probably not even first choice.

    Add in DMac, who's played well enough in some tests, we're not too bereft.

    I wouldn't particularly want to see Mitch Hunt starting a big test, but we're probably no thinner than 2011.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    The cupboard is pretty bare too: Hunt is good, but not WC good; Joane seems to be out of favor; and Plummer is coming along, but has kicking issues (he’s really a 10/12). Love is also talent but it’s far too early to tell how good he might be.

    Hunt has peaked at 'not quite good enough'

    I hope Ioane isn't done. Maybe getting out of Dunedin would help

    Plummer, medium/long term is a 12. Although he has recently shown some good acceleration that AB 10's need now

    Love might have the most upside. But maybe he's a better fullback?

    Can't think of many other options? Trask shows flashes of quality but mostly at fullback..

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    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    The cupboard is pretty bare too: Hunt is good, but not WC good; Joane seems to be out of favor; and Plummer is coming along, but has kicking issues (he’s really a 10/12). Love is also talent but it’s far too early to tell how good he might be.

    Hunt has peaked at 'not quite good enough'

    I hope Ioane isn't done. Maybe getting out of Dunedin would help

    Plummer, medium/long term is a 12. Although he has recently shown some good acceleration that AB 10's need now

    Love might have the most upside. But maybe he's a better fullback?

    Can't think of many other options? Trask shows flashes of quality but mostly at fullback..

    Love was able to show glimpses of a different quality even though under obvious instructions to shovel it on and drop back.
    Canes still think he’s a fullback so might be a problem.
    I’m not seeing anything great from Trask but the Blues Sullivan looks to be talented and smart enough to build if he gets opportunities

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    @duluth I have a lot of "what ifs" about Tiaan Falcon. What if he hadn't had so many injuries? What if he hadn't been stuck behind Dmac and had more game time at the Chiefs? What if he hadn't gone to Japan? He was a top talent for NZ U20s, but couldn't stay injury free. 😞

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    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    The cupboard is pretty bare too: Hunt is good, but not WC good; Joane seems to be out of favor; and Plummer is coming along, but has kicking issues (he’s really a 10/12). Love is also talent but it’s far too early to tell how good he might be.

    Hunt has peaked at 'not quite good enough'

    I hope Ioane isn't done. Maybe getting out of Dunedin would help

    Plummer, medium/long term is a 12. Although he has recently shown some good acceleration that AB 10's need now

    Love might have the most upside. But maybe he's a better fullback?

    Can't think of many other options? Trask shows flashes of quality but mostly at fullback..

    Love was able to show glimpses of a different quality even though under obvious instructions to shovel it on and drop back.
    Canes still think he’s a fullback so might be a problem.
    I’m not seeing anything great from Trask but the Blues Sullivan looks to be talented and smart enough to build if he gets opportunities

    Sullivan has the kicking game and appears to have time when under pressure.
    He needs starts at ten though.. is his passing up to it? Does he have the running game the AB selectors want from their 10’s etc

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    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    @crucial said in All Blacks 2021:

    @duluth said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    The cupboard is pretty bare too: Hunt is good, but not WC good; Joane seems to be out of favor; and Plummer is coming along, but has kicking issues (he’s really a 10/12). Love is also talent but it’s far too early to tell how good he might be.

    Hunt has peaked at 'not quite good enough'

    I hope Ioane isn't done. Maybe getting out of Dunedin would help

    Plummer, medium/long term is a 12. Although he has recently shown some good acceleration that AB 10's need now

    Love might have the most upside. But maybe he's a better fullback?

    Can't think of many other options? Trask shows flashes of quality but mostly at fullback..

    Love was able to show glimpses of a different quality even though under obvious instructions to shovel it on and drop back.
    Canes still think he’s a fullback so might be a problem.
    I’m not seeing anything great from Trask but the Blues Sullivan looks to be talented and smart enough to build if he gets opportunities

    Sullivan has the kicking game and appears to have time when under pressure.
    He needs starts at ten though.. is his passing up to it? Does he have the running game the AB selectors want from their 10’s etc

    Agree. Some players just instantly stand out as possibilities and to me he looks like one.

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    I wish at least one of Sullivan and Plummer would go somewhere they can play 10 consistently as I see the most potential in them. Trask has not come on yet. Love needs a bit more time to build his influence on a game. Don't think Hunt or Josh will get any better.

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    Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

    Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

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    Knowler on the money again. Not!

    I always thought it was going to be one of Savea or BB.

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    Ardie was the obvious choice to me.

    Good pick.

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    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

    Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

    Patrick McKendry: All Blacks set to make wrong choice for new captain

    He got it correct, says it's the wrong choice, but provides no reasons

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    haha

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300393637/ardie-savea-named-all-blacks-captain-for-rugby-championship

    They also confirmed that Brodie Retallick and Beauden Barrett would be vice-captains.

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    Really pleased for Ardie. He's worked damn hard for a number of years now and has developed into a top player. He seems like a highly respected bloke among his peers too.

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    @machpants said in All Blacks 2021:

    @canes4life said in All Blacks 2021:

    Ardie has been named captain. Great choice if you ask me. 😀

    Let’s hope he starts at 7 and not 8 going forward though.

    Patrick McKendry: All Blacks set to make wrong choice for new captain

    He got it correct, says it's the wrong choice, but provides no reasons

    Would be buried too often in rucks? Lacks the top two inches of genuinely taller players?

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    Really happy for him.
    Kind of an obvious choice based off form and experience.
    Just hope he is 7 not 8 (but it looks like it won't happen)

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    I have a feeling that BB will absolutely carve it up over the next few weeks. He knows he is the first pick 10 and will want to make a point. I look forward to seeing how he goes.

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