Euros
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pull the keeper, a team can leave someone back there but they cant use their hands, loosing to a wide shot from halfway wont cause any drama...
Thoughts on the english players taking their medals straight off? i noticed it and thought it was a little "off", but if we take it as a sign of how much winning meant to them, and second wasn't good enough, why bother giving them a medal or at least right then. if the players dont want it to be part of the ceremony then ditch it
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I thought the refs did a very good job in this tournament and let a lot go rather constantly pinging for dives/incidental contact.
The diving itself doesn't annoy me as much as the theatrics on the ground during/afterwards. I'm not sure why the constant need to 'sell' the foul after it has been given.
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@kiwiwomble said in Euros:
pull the keeper, a team can leave someone back there but they cant use their hands,
I've thought that for years.
It's supposed to be "foot" ball but one guy gets to cheat (well one each). That won't be a popular opinion either.
Before rugby gets too condescending when was the last time a half back fed the scrum straight, lazy running etc.
I mentioned it above and don't think that we will. Most of us have a mirror. Some just don't like to look in it.
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A good game of most sports between two evenly matched teams played in the right spirit is a thing of beauty. Negative tactics and niggle in whatever form spoils most sports spectacles
Yes.
Most of the time I love test cricket for that reason.Australia should be left out because of the "right spirit" and the niggles.
Although TBF for most of my life it wasn't two evenly matched teams either.Football does seem to a lack a bit of the "right spirit". Call them friendlies if you want but trying to fake injuries to milk a penalty is pretty obvious.
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@kid-chocolate said in Euros:
Hate that it is sneaking into rugby.
That sort of thing never happened during Andy Haden’s era.
Still not what the penalty was for though and it wasn't as prevalent.
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This win must meant a huge amount to Italy after the tough times they had with Covid in March and April 2020.
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England have a team to be proud of and with all the young talent coming through, they will be a good bet in future tournaments. Kyle Walker is their only player over 30.
Under pressure, Southgate needs to learn to trust attacking flair more. His team got far too defensive and parked the bus too early last night.
But I can't see England winning a major tournament without getting through a penalty shootout somewhere. The goalkeeper was superb last night. Employ a specialist coach to work with the penalty takers. I can't see the sense in giving the 5th penalty to a 19 year old. Trust your senior players and make clear with seniority come obligation.
Most importantly, there is still a huge societal issue to address in terms the moronic and racist element who crawl out from underneath rocks when the England football team do well. Ugly scenes in Leicester Square and around Wembley Stadium yesterday. Some vile racism online. Just horrible to read Black British parents posting online that they had worried about sending their kids to school this morning because of the racism they might face.
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England have a team to be proud of and with all the young talent coming through, they will be a good bet in future tournaments. Kyle Walker is their only player over 30.
Under pressure, Southgate needs to learn to trust attacking flair more. His team got far too defensive and parked the bus too early last night.
But I can't see England winning a major tournament without getting through a penalty shootout somewhere. The goalkeeper was superb last night. Employ a specialist coach to work with the penalty takers. I can't see the sense in giving the 5th penalty to a 19 year old. Trust your senior players and make clear with seniority come obligation.
Most importantly, there is still a huge societal issue to address in terms the moronic and racist element who crawl out from underneath rocks when the England football team do well. Ugly scenes in Leicester Square and around Wembley Stadium yesterday. Some vile racism online. Just horrible to read Black British parents posting online that they had worried about sending their kids to school this morning because of the racism they might face.
Is that because black players missed the penalties? If so that’s totally fucked up. But I do wish people would stop conflating things that happen online with the real world. The sewer that is Twitter and social media is thankfully not a reflection of the world we live in. God help us if it was.
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Michael Caine was wrong all along
You were meant to blow the bloody doors off
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I’ve always thought that penalty takers should be selected based on temperament and that strikers are not always the best in these situations. Andy Brehme took the penalty for Germany in the 1990 final and didn’t ManU always have that Mr Bean looking defender take their penalties (Irwin wasn’t it). Some of the best players in the world have bottled it. Sometimes your boring, plodding defender who never scores goals is better in that situation than a flashy striker.
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Yeah still struggling to get my head around having the young fellas step up, and Grealish is ignored - isn't he captain of his club side?
Sterling should have been one of the penalty takers. Saka had never taken a penalty in a competitive game before.
Grealish takes pens for Villa I believe
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@no-quarter said in Euros:
I'm not sure why they don't crack down on it - maybe there's an element of it being part of the game that people are OK with? A feel like a lot of the complaints come from people that are not diehard fans.
There are reasons that they are not diehard fans. Me included. Diving is one of them.
Rugby is of course perfect. No problems with the laws, refs, nothing. All good.
One of the good things about Rugby is the respect players, spectators and officials seem to have for each other. I know that can sound sentimental and superior, but considering the amount of booze drunk at Rugby matches, it's pretty true. You get dickheads in any sport, but they seem to get called out more in Rugby.
I don't watch much soccer, but there does seem to be a bit less of the on-field dickhead-ness from players and managers there used to be and crowd behaviour seems pretty good compared to what it used to be. I like the way players and officials treat each other as now compared to what went on in the past.
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@victor-meldrew whatever you do, don't watch a club game. The shit the players get away with in regards to treatment of officials is dire.
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