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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    Concerning that the ABs lack depth in the two most several important positions

    FTFY

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    @tim Reiko Ioane is a dangerman at Centre who is tough to defend against and creates chances for the players around him.

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    @bones said in All Blacks 2021:

    ALB is our centre right? Only way I can't see that happening is if they don't select Havili.

    Maybe I am wrong but there is ALB Havili, RI and PUJ (even though the Hurricanes coaching don't pick him, given their other selections that doesn't seem a black mark against him).*
    NB Leicester Fainga’anuku-Robertson has praised him with potential from 12 to wing but I see him, at 21, as future centre/wing cover. Perhaps a future competitor to RI, but, as I said, very young and had a busy season.
    So of those 4, DH and ALB are best distributors but DH a 12 and ALB adept and experienced at 12/13; RI and PUJ are 13s (in my eyes PUJ not so good yet at 12) and they are the flashier explosive runners with more risk and less distribution than ALB..
    So DH+ALB at 12/13 with RI off the bench or possibly PUJ (who is less experienced than RI, more of a natural centre, but weaker in wing cover).
    Another option is RI on bench or starting as wing or wing/cover (arguably still one of NZ's best wings), with option to move in to 13 if the centre is injured.
    So I think RI has the advantage as bench player, could be highly impactful in second half of a game (but I hope PUJ gets matchtime, I like the look of him).
    *I'm not sure Ennor would or could be in the conversation, not enough recent gametime I would have thought.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    bigger

    abut 2 cm and a few kilos in it at most I'd have thought, or has Flanders grown since the official stats?

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    @tim could you please remove your data and facts when discussing an Ioane, all that matters is the vibe.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    bigger

    abut 2 cm and a few kilos in it at most I'd have thought, or has Flanders grown since the official stats?

    @Stargazer would be the person who probably has the pics from his insta (or someone's) but he is huge this year, looks like he's been on roids.

    193cm puts him at the same height as Read and I'd say he's bigger, even if the 'official' stats don't see to indicate that.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    bigger

    abut 2 cm and a few kilos in it at most I'd have thought, or has Flanders grown since the official stats?

    @Stargazer would be the person who probably has the pics from his insta (or someone's) but he is huge this year, looks like he's been on roids.

    193cm puts him at the same height as Read and I'd say he's bigger, even if the 'official' stats don't see to indicate that.

    I was a few metres away from the Hurricanes bench last weekend and he looks a big lad.

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    Is Boshier not even a lookin this year? Doesn't seem to have much AB luck..

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    Is Boshier not even a lookin this year? Doesn't seem to have much AB luck..

    Over who?... every other main all black flanker chance has shown more than he has

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @mackerzzzz Well, it's a revisionist interpretation.......

    That was part of the point...

    No real point in having a team of 35 year olds.

    But if you think of ages of the people I didn't pick you will see that they will all have retired or be shit old buggers.

    Tu'inukuafe, coles, whitelock, smith, tj, Weber, beaudie, havili, etc.

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    @antipodean him and Numia walked past me on Cuba Street a couple weeks ago and Flanders looks like a big lad. Numia was athletic as hell aswell but probably needs to put a couple of kgs on if he ever wants to reach that next level.

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    Does anybody think fidow will become good at some stage?

    He has the power and running skill to become a tupou...

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    @canes4life I had to laugh last week when the commentators about the canes hooker with the "big boppers" beside him. Numia has got to be the smallest prop in years!

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    bigger

    abut 2 cm and a few kilos in it at most I'd have thought, or has Flanders grown since the official stats?

    @Stargazer would be the person who probably has the pics from his insta (or someone's) but he is huge this year, looks like he's been on roids.

    193cm puts him at the same height as Read and I'd say he's bigger, even if the 'official' stats don't see to indicate that.

    I was a few metres away from the Hurricanes bench last weekend and he looks a big lad.

    Breakfast?

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2021:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2021:

    bigger

    abut 2 cm and a few kilos in it at most I'd have thought, or has Flanders grown since the official stats?

    @Stargazer would be the person who probably has the pics from his insta (or someone's) but he is huge this year, looks like he's been on roids.

    193cm puts him at the same height as Read and I'd say he's bigger, even if the 'official' stats don't see to indicate that.

    For comparison of height, this was the only useful photo I could find on Getty's website (Scrafton is - according to his Hurricanes profile - 7cm taller, but it looks less):

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    Someone posted this photo from his instagram during preseason (with Jonah Lowe tagging Drugfree Sport NZ in the comments):

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    @bones maybe true, also never seen anyone play like him before...ever, given that the game is evolving quickly into a fast pace game he will set the platform for a new breed of props needed .. my honest opinion

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    @stargazer all he nees to say is "chenny GET DOWUN... ARGhh.." nah jokes aside hes massive, huge fan future AB right there

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    @berhamporeninja said in All Blacks 2021:

    @bones maybe true, also never seen anyone play like him before...ever, given that the game is evolving quickly into a fast pace game he will set the platform for a new breed of props needed .. my honest opinion

    Yeah have heard that plenty of times in yesteryears, I remain unconvinced.

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    @mackerzzzz said in All Blacks 2021:

    What about really ambitious: 2027 world cup:

    1. The Groot
    2. Aumua
    3. The mighty Williams
    4. Scott Barrett
    5. Vaiiiiii
    6. Robinson/ Blackadder
    7. Sam Cane (may be to old - if so papalii)
    8. Sotutu
    9. Fakatava
    10. Moanga
    11. Clarke
    12. J Barrett (could become a very good 12)
    13. Lenert-Brown
    14. Likley bolter/young gun. Ratumituvuki- knepkins?
    15. Jordan (could become cullen good)
    16. A Ross?
    17. S Vikena?
    18. Tuangafasi?
    19. Lord or Darry
    20. Savea
    21. Only other good young guy is Roe
    22. DMac or Z Sullivan
    23. Not sure - nani-seturo? narawa? Fihaki?

    Replacement hookers always wear the 16 jersey, but this is just a detail of your 2027 team. What you mean is that no youngsters that we don't know yet will emerge during the next few years ! NZ rugby is known for its capacity to dig out new talents every year. It won't change.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2021:

    @tim Reiko Ioane is a dangerman at Centre who is tough to defend against and creates chances for the players around him.

    Unless Foster is able to come up with tactics to get around the rush defence - which is becoming very clear - Rieko Ioane is apparently the only answer we have to that question

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