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@taniwharugby PETA really are oxygen thieves
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I didn’t know there was some doubt about the guy’s resignation and that does put a different slant on things. Also I’m quite ok with there being personal consequences for him. Not so happy with all the virtue signallers dumping the company and that’s what it is, otherwise why make a big announcement about it? Why not just quietly follow your own moral compass?
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@catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I didn’t know there was some doubt about the guy’s resignation and that does put a different slant on things. Also I’m quite ok with there being personal consequences for him. Not so happy with all the virtue signallers dumping the company and that’s what it is, otherwise why make a big announcement about it? Why not just quietly follow your own moral compass?
How else would people know you're a better person? Where's your dopamine hit coming from if you can't get notifications from people you don't know praising you for the least possible effort on your behalf?
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@catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I didn’t know there was some doubt about the guy’s resignation and that does put a different slant on things. Also I’m quite ok with there being personal consequences for him. Not so happy with all the virtue signallers dumping the company and that’s what it is, otherwise why make a big announcement about it? Why not just quietly follow your own moral compass?
Isn't that what the companies are doing? Just because you say it's virtue signalling, it doesn't mean they're not following their own moral compass.
The only person to blame for the negative effect on this company is the twat who posted that shit. He's a fucktard, companies not wanting to be associated with him don't deserve your scorn - he does.
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@nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I didn’t know there was some doubt about the guy’s resignation and that does put a different slant on things. Also I’m quite ok with there being personal consequences for him. Not so happy with all the virtue signallers dumping the company and that’s what it is, otherwise why make a big announcement about it? Why not just quietly follow your own moral compass?
Isn't that what the companies are doing? Just because you say it's virtue signalling, it doesn't mean they're not following their own moral compass.
The only person to blame for the negative effect on this company is the twat who posted that shit. He's a fucktard, companies not wanting to be associated with him don't deserve your scorn - he does.
Quite a few have come out and said that this isn't the first time they have baulked at his behaviour and that this was the final straw as far as stocking product went. It was the only way that the message was going to get through.
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@nepia said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@catogrande said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I didn’t know there was some doubt about the guy’s resignation and that does put a different slant on things. Also I’m quite ok with there being personal consequences for him. Not so happy with all the virtue signallers dumping the company and that’s what it is, otherwise why make a big announcement about it? Why not just quietly follow your own moral compass?
Isn't that what the companies are doing? Just because you say it's virtue signalling, it doesn't mean they're not following their own moral compass.
The only person to blame for the negative effect on this company is the twat who posted that shit. He's a fucktard, companies not wanting to be associated with him don't deserve your scorn - he does.
The other point is that reporters are probably chasing this story, so companies have to be ready comment (especially if you are a big enough player). My guess is that the business' cited in this article were approached by the journalist, not the other way around.
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@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa
I've only been nervous on a flight once. Returning to London from Egypt you could hear wind whistling round one of the doors so loud that you could not hear the movie soundtrack even with headphones. Cabin crew stuffed towels around the doorWe didn't divert or land but it was a bit eerie. @Snowy how 'normal' is this?
I just remembered this. DM me if you really want to know. I won't bore anybody else with it.
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@snowy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa
I've only been nervous on a flight once. Returning to London from Egypt you could hear wind whistling round one of the doors so loud that you could not hear the movie soundtrack even with headphones. Cabin crew stuffed towels around the doorWe didn't divert or land but it was a bit eerie. @Snowy how 'normal' is this?
I just remembered this. DM me if you really want to know. I won't bore anybody else with it.
We need more plane stories on here, not less!
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@snowy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa
I've only been nervous on a flight once. Returning to London from Egypt you could hear wind whistling round one of the doors so loud that you could not hear the movie soundtrack even with headphones. Cabin crew stuffed towels around the doorWe didn't divert or land but it was a bit eerie. @Snowy how 'normal' is this?
I just remembered this. DM me if you really want to know. I won't bore anybody else with it.
You seem to have taken the broken record nomination quite badly. Not the spirit it was intended. Quite the opposite, actually.
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@bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa he's packing a sad cos he got a broken record nomination.
I accepted the other nomination quite happily for "cellar" not "basement". Might even win with that one. Packing a sad is indeed a great expression that I haven't heard in ages.
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@snowy said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa he's packing a sad cos he got a broken record nomination.
I accepted the other nomination quite happily for "cellar" not "basement". Might even win with that one. Packing a sad is indeed a great expression that I haven't heard in ages.
This is still not a plane story.
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@donsteppa this whistling door concerns me too! He survived though so...
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@dogmeat said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@donsteppa
I've only been nervous on a flight once. Returning to London from Egypt you could hear wind whistling round one of the doors so loud that you could not hear the movie soundtrack even with headphones. Cabin crew stuffed towels around the doorWe didn't divert or land but it was a bit eerie. @Snowy how 'normal' is this?
Seeing as some of you asked nicely.
I couldn't say that it is common, but it certainly happens. Pressurisation leaks I had many times (20,000 hours is a lot of time airborne to put it in perspective). The doors are "plugs" so they can't just pop out or anything with out taking some of the fuselage with it, which is obviously a much larger issue. They are a clever design. Explosive decompression is very rare:
I did have to return to Singapore when I had one door that wasn't closed properly after take off. We had the electronic sensor go off at about 14,000 feet which is when you get pressurisation warnings. F/O went back to look at the door and the manual indicator was half red, half green and yes we had the "squeal". Leveled off at 16,000ft (didn't want to increase the cabin pressure differential) but that meant that we were about to go into a prohibited active military zone (would normally have been above it). Had I continued at that altitude we would also have been too short of fuel to make Hong Kong so had to go back to Singapore. Back on the ground they found that one of the sort of roller latches at the top of the door had come loose and allowed the door to shift a bit. It couldn't have come open but it was enough to inhibit proper pressurisation.
I then had to have tea and bickies with the chief pilot of course. He was actually fine and understood the whole scenario, it was the engineers getting in his ear because they wanted to divert blame that was the issue afterwards. Everybody gets scrutinised very closely in a "blame game". They talk about the "culture" of airlines and "free" reporting in the interests of promoting safety, but it is still there. Just human nature and "pilot error" never goes away, just the end of the chain ends with us.