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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="566672" data-time="1458689353"><p>
Julian Savea is officially 'rested'. I hope for Canes fans that he truly isn't resting but is instead working to get rid of those extra chins.<br><br>
The man is fast becoming Weepu all over again.</p></blockquote>
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Yeah they probably have a tab with the same bakery. Though at least Savea is still capable of running. One of Weepus major strengths was his ability to run the ball. But towards the end he was waddling to every ruck and would have had a heart attack if he tried to pick and go. Such a shame. -
<p>If the black jersey wasnt motivation enough, jeez you'd think having his brother in the same team there'd be extra motivation to be fitter, faster stronger etc....maybe he needs to go on 7s duty for a month?</p>
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<p>Otere Black is going to be ripe for the picking for the new Crusaders coach next season.</p>
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<p>The way Mo'unga is going, I think he might be warming the bench if he went to the Crusaders. If he really wants game time, I suggest the Blues. :)</p> -
<p>It's a tough one with Savea. While he wasn't at his peak in 2015 I don't think he was as bad as some people made out (wanting him dropped before the RWC etc.)</p>
<p>The way the AB's used him last year was very different from previous years. He was doing a lot of in close running to make the gain line, and doing a good job of it. Didn't help the percepition that he wasn't playing well that NMS was tearing it up on the right wing.</p>
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<p>Not surprised that he came back a bit over weight this year being post RWC and getting married. Just hope he can get into shape and back to his best quickly.</p> -
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<p>Eh? I'm the one that started giving him shit for being fat.</p>
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<p>The photos were to show the contrast.</p>
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<p>Ok sorry, I thought you were saying something like "would you prefer for him to be in form for the Canes or All Blacks".</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="566878" data-time="1458785152">
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<p>He doesn't look anywhere as explosive as he did in 2012-2014. I'm hoping this is in relation to the fitness aspect and not a Rokocoko type situation where he has peaked and while still useful, never the same player again.</p>
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<p>My gut feeling is starting to tell me that maybe his best is behind him when it comes to being the fast blockbusting finishing winger , more than happy to be proven wrong , because I dont want to it to be true . </p> -
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My gut feeling is starting to tell me that maybe his best is behind him when it comes to being the fast blockbusting finishing winger , more than happy to be proven wrong , because I dont want to it to be true .</p></blockquote>We always get wingers that score tries at an incredible rate, to the point that if they played as many tests as Habana they'd be 50 odd tries clear of the next best. But then they turn 26, their form takes a slump and the next talented up and comer takes over. I was really hoping Savea would end up with 100 tests and as many tries, but that is difficult to maintain I guess. What's frustrating is he isn't helping himself with his fitness. -
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<p>My gut feeling is starting to tell me that maybe his best is behind him when it comes to being the fast blockbusting finishing winger , more than happy to be proven wrong , because I dont want to it to be true . </p>
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<p>While I know what you are saying, That game against France was only two tests ago. So it isn't that far in the past that he was doing what he has always been good at. Too early to write him off IMO.</p> -
<p>Who cares about Savea? We produce a lot of talented wingers. As people have said, if he is over weight just show him the door. There will always be a young talnted guy like Naholo coming through. Only Hurricanes fans should really be concerned. Savea at his best is still an asset for the AB's but we can find any Savea.</p>
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<p>Most worrying is how poor Savea has been under the high ball this season.</p> -
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<p>While I know what you are saying, That game against France was only two tests ago. So it isn't that far in the past that he was doing what he has always been good at. Too early to write him off IMO.</p>
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<p>Although I agree that it is too early to write him off, that game was against FRANCE. The same country that ended fifth in the 6 Nations only a week ago.</p> -
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<p>Although I agree that it is too early to write him off, that game was against FRANCE. The same country that ended fifth in the 6 Nations only a week ago.</p>
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<p>Everyone knows the frogs don't take the 6N seriously anymore. The RWC version of France vs NZ is a totally different animal (albeit weaker than the 2011 version)</p> -
<p>Yes that game against France, a RWC Knock out game on foreign soil, where many were tipping that they would knock us out again. It was a fucking huge game. Arguably the biggest game since the 2011 Final. Maybe even the biggest game of Savea's career up to that point.</p>
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Yeah I thought he fronted big time for that game , maybe he is going through a similar phase to Joe Rok did in the latter part of his test career where he struggles to be the same player he was when he was younger week after week .<br><br>
It's a bit like the fast bowler who can't be the tear away aggressive speed machine for ever and modifies his game to still be A valuable player . . <br><br>
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<p>He's been highs and lows for a few years now. Really seems to struggle maintaining his fitness and weight outside of the AB environment. I would never begrudge these guys a decent off season and a chance to unwind but some do it much better than others. Wonder if things might change if we do get a global season and the pressure to be 'on' for 9-10 months of the year changes.</p>
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<p>In any case it sucks for the Canes to have such a quality player come back and half ass his way through the first part of the season. Treat them like adults but ffs If I were the Canes trainer or coach I'd have him on a fitbit and be keeping an eye on things over the break! You don't put on that kind of beef from just one sitting of chop suey!!</p> -
<p>Canes team tonight having the opposite handling skills that Blues had last week. Outstanding skills</p>
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Dane Coles is a farking superstar.
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<p>canes @-35.5 for $1.82.....</p>
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<p>Ardie!!!</p>
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What a try! Lol
