Black Caps v Pakistan
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Fuck me, Peter Williams and Glen Larmer(sp? - I don't really care) are fucking atrocious. I knew Williams was bad from the execrable days of the late 70s and early 80s on TVNZ cricket comms, but omg he has regressed. Larmer is just a fucking idiot complete with y'knows and ehs and complete lack of language skills. CMJ and Richie used to say that first person "I" was not to be used by the Ball-by-ball comm. "They're here to find out what is happening, not your personal experience."
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@SynicBast said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I bet they all looked freaking sublime.
Yep, and he just kept them coming. Pretty to watch.
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Is itr just me or has doully got really professional in eliciting comments from his colour comms, - never heard Braces sound so engaged before - usually he's as dull a monotone as you can get. Although that's better than the extreme of Danny Morrison . So there is hope for the comms here.
Yes I'm in full GOM mode - 50 years of RNZ/Radio Sport/ABC(Galloway and Waddle, Macgilvray and Maxwell) has spoiled me utterly
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@SynicBast he seems to have matured a bit, or at least reads the room better! I enjoy listening to him and he does work well with others - especially when ribbing ex players.
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Shocking decision not to review there. As a batting team you get 3 reviews and there is only 10 wickets. Of the 10 wickets probably only 3-4 would even be reviewable. Any top order batsman should be reviewing basically any decision if there is any doubt.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I'm not sure what is wrong with Peter Williams ? he's been a solid broadcaster for as long as I remember. Not massively dynamic but certainly not grating or irritating either.
When he was a TV commentator he basically described everything like a radio comm, and as a radio ball by ball comm, he takes on too much of the colour/expert comms function without actually being an expert. He's also deeply rooted in the Howarth years and hasn't progressed beyond that in terms of understanding of the current game and players. He's a dinosaur.
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@SynicBast said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I'm not sure what is wrong with Peter Williams ? he's been a solid broadcaster for as long as I remember. Not massively dynamic but certainly not grating or irritating either.
When he was a TV commentator he basically described everything like a radio comm, and as a radio ball by ball comm, he takes on too much of the colour/expert comms function without actually being an expert. He's also deeply rooted in the Howarth years and hasn't progressed beyond that in terms of understanding of the current game and players. He's a dinosaur.
Maybe you're listening on longer car rides or paying more attention but I've never really picked up on any of that from him overall.
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@Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Weather going to be complete lottery today it seems. Showers, thunderstorms, hail. Usually those events are localised so might miss the ground if we are lucky.Waiting for the hail to cool things down while we blissfully watch nz demoralise the Pakistani bowlers in typical bay sun
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@Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
He's a kid
Not sure that I would call Kyle that. He turns 26 in a couple of days. Inexperienced at test level, sure, but made his first class debut in 2014, was also in the NZ under 19s so been around for a bit.
What I like about him is attitude - he appears to be grumpy (like a fast bowler should be).
It also sounds like he has worked on his technique to get more speed and it seems to have been successful. He was low 130s I think, now seems to be high 130s and even more dangerous.@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
His batting is a bonus so far , looks organized, but his run output so far is based on aerial pulls, hooks, and slogs off spinners.
Definitely a bonus. His SR is 71 so at least he must be picking the correct balls to have slog at, not just wildly swinging (he's also played some classy shots too). We were looking to up the run rate in a couple of those innings as well so a few big hits were justified.
Weather going to be complete lottery today it seems. Showers, thunderstorms, hail. Usually those events are localised so might miss the ground if we are lucky.
I mean he is a test pup. 4 tests all at home. He has a core job he is still raw at and I presume needs to devote most of his practice and prep time to and his physical energy to during games.
First time I saw Jamieson he was only mid 120s, he was only mid 120s 2 years ago. Nothing should distract from the work going into his bowling which is on an incredible trajectory.
Jamieson's batting is tighter and better version of Tim Southee. SO far all he has shown has either been counter attacking aggresion or cherry on top aggression. He is not a 7, I doubt he will ever be a 7. Only way I could see hime being a 7 is a succesful unit is if we also had 8s and 9s of similarish output to lengthn the batting. Currently, if Jamieson goes 7 then Spouthee goes 8, so yeah ...
I can't actually remember if the post I was replying to was suggesting a Jamieson to 7 type situation or just generally shitting on Santner.
No doubt Santner is currently the weakest spot in the 11. Fairly good weakest link in my mind though. Provides a balance that allows a 4 prong seam attack.
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@ARHS said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Snowy said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Weather going to be complete lottery today it seems. Showers, thunderstorms, hail. Usually those events are localised so might miss the ground if we are lucky.Waiting for the hail to cool things down while we blissfully watch nz demoralise the Pakistani bowlers in typical bay sun
Just repeating what the TB news said (and the met service website). They did say later in the day.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Maybe you're listening on longer car rides or paying more attention but I've never really picked up on any of that from him overall.
Test Cricket is my first love, and has been since the 1973/74 season. So yeah I dedicate a fair amount of time to either watching (not so much these days) or listening intently to commentary. Plus I started playing cricket around the time of the 79 windies tour so became very familiar with Williams' style. He was tried early on in Radio Sport and lasted one match IIRC.
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@Rapido said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I can't actually remember if the post I was replying to was suggesting a Jamieson to 7 type situation or just generally shitting on Santner.
It wasn't by me, but I don't think that anyone suggested him at 7.
Southee has been ahead of him which isn't ideal either.
