Former schoolboy Superstar leaving NRL: Heading To The Canes
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<p>I only rate kids that are worthy of rating. Maybe I am overrating guys like Peter Umaga Jensen, Alex Fidow and Nelson Asofa Solomona but hey I guess the Canes feel the same as they've been bloody quick to sign these guys up. </p>
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<p>Laumape, Fisiiahi and Sonny Bill Williams have expressed recently that League is a very contact dominated sport where room to roam is scarce throughout the duration of a match. Theyve mentioned that Rugby provides them with more open space to attack and the fact that their bodies aren't getting punished like they are in League is a bonus. Plenty of players enjoy the crash and bash of League and thats fine. I just believe that Nelson Asofa Solomona is more effective in rugby, one because of his size and two because he can insert his dominance on more facets of the game.</p>
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<p>To answer the second question you are right, all teams have structures, I just feel some are more structured than others. For example when you compare teams like Melbourne in League and the Crusaders in Rugby they have a strict game plan in place. In contrast teams like the Canes in Rugby and the Broncos in League let their players back themselves a bit more. I guess Nelson doesn't like being tied down to Melbourne's strict game plan and probably feels that he is more suited to a team like the Hurricanes where he can express himself more. </p>
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<p>What were Sam Burgess's views ?</p> -
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Laumape, Fisiiahi and Sonny Bill Williams have expressed recently that League is a very contact dominated sport where room to roam is scarce throughout the duration of a match. Theyve mentioned that Rugby provides them with more open space to attack and the fact that their bodies aren't getting punished like they are in League is a bonus.</p></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">To answer the second question you are right, all teams have structures, I just feel some are more structured than others. For example when you compare teams like Melbourne in League and the Crusaders in Rugby they have a strict game plan in place. In contrast teams like the Canes in Rugby and the Broncos in League let their players back themselves a bit more. I guess Nelson doesn't like being tied down to Melbourne's strict game plan and probably feels that he is more suited to a team like the Hurricanes where he can express himself more.
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I get what you are saying, but perhaps this version of Wayne Bennett's Broncos are not the best example. They are structured and disciplined as fuck, stacked full of role players. </span></p> -
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<p>What were Sam Burgess's views ?</p>
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<p>speaking of Slammin' Sammy, it's testament to the maturity of the Fox Sports league commentators that they can admit that he looks to have come back to league a better player thanks to some new skills and a leaner frame. No Ch9-esque "unions a shit sport" bullshit was a refreshing change. </p> -
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<p>speaking of Slammin' Sammy, it's testament to the maturity of the Fox Sports league commentators that they can admit that he looks to have come back to league a better player thanks to some new skills and a leaner frame. No Ch9-esque "unions a shit sport" bullshit was a refreshing change. </p>
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<p>How bout Willie Mason ?</p> -
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I get what you are saying, but perhaps this version of Wayne Bennett's Broncos are not the best example. They are structured and disciplined as fuck, stacked full of role players. </span></p>
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<p>And I think the structure bit about Melbourne is more around their defense , they still score shit loads of points , </p>
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<p>Nelson was offloading plenty in the tackles , as do the other kiwi boys , Ive heard he wants to chase his dream of being an All Black ,thats what its about </p> -
It also suggests that hes homesick. However at the Nines he was asked if he was settling in within the Melbourne environment and he came accross as quite positive. Who knows. If he does come back though I will be a keen observer of his game.
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<p>It also suggests that hes homesick. However at the Nines he was asked if he was settling in within the Melbourne environment and he came accross as quite positive. Who knows. If he does come back though I will be a keen observer of his game.</p>
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<p>Well since you've blown the lid on the secret talks that's bit up in the air</p> -
Secrets out from the orginal article wouldnt you think mate.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1458198001" data-cid="565193" data-author="MN5"><p>What were Sam Burgess's views ?</p></blockquote>Actually you could ask what Brad Thorn's view was too, I heard him talk a couple of weeks ago, was surprised when someone in audience kind of knocked union how quick he was to say how much he fell back in love with the game when he swapped, words along the line that he thought union was so much a complete team game, didn't knock league but said how much he enjoyed the fact that everyone had to support each other in union.<br>Anyway I happy to see that Canes4 is happy about the boy returning to his team, isn't that what being a sports fan is about??
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<p>Seriously, this guy was a very good player at high school level. Probably the most impressive player in Wellington at that level since Ardie Savea. You can never tell off of high school stuff whether someone has what it takes. I watched both Savea brothers carve it up at high school but you never knew they would be able to step up. Solomona has the potential to have what it takes and that is reasonably worth getting excited about even if 'star' is unwarranted. I just hope he has a season of ITM Cup rugby before being thrust into Super Rugby.</p>
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<p>Actually you could ask what Brad Thorn's view was too, I heard him talk a couple of weeks ago, was surprised when someone in audience kind of knocked union how quick he was to say how much he fell back in love with the game when he swapped, words along the line that he thought union was so much a complete team game, didn't knock league but said how much he enjoyed the fact that everyone had to support each other in union.<br>
Anyway I happy to see that Canes4 is happy about the boy returning to his team, isn't that what being a sports fan is about??</p>
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<p>How bout Willie Carne ?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-time="1458245705" data-cid="565278" data-author="MN5"><p>How bout Willie Carne ?</p></blockquote>Yep MN5, but I was thinking of players that were any good, why I didn't mention Will Chambers etc, and anyway I have never heard carne speak so wouldn't know or care to be honest what he thought.
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<p>Wow this is HUGE news for the New Zealand rugby union. NAS was the superstar of the u20's and certainly the most talked and hyped up junior player to arrive at the storm since Falou. The guy would add stacks of big athletic talent to the All Blacks pack and is near on impossible to stop one on one.</p>
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<p>New Zealand Warriors will be gutted! they have been after him for the last 3 years.</p>
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<p>Congrats hurricanes if you pull this one off, NZ Rugby will be thankful he is back in Union.</p> -
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<p>Wow this is HUGE news for the New Zealand rugby union. NAS was the superstar of the u20's and certainly the most talked and hyped up junior player to arrive at the storm since Falou. The guy would add stacks of big athletic talent to the All Blacks pack and is near on impossible to stop one on one.</p>
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<p>New Zealand Warriors will be gutted! they have been after him for the last 3 years.</p>
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<p>Congrats hurricanes if you pull this one off, NZ Rugby will be thankful he is back in Union.</p>
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<p>Have you got two fern accounts Canes4Life ? I don't think that's allowed.....</p> -
<p>Nah mate just another man that actually knows his grass roots. Unlike some Ferners on here who watch maybe one Super Rugby match a week and think they are an expert. :mocking:</p>
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<p><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Wow this is HUGE news for the New Zealand rugby union. NAS was the superstar of the u20's and certainly the most talked and hyped up junior player to arrive at the storm since Falou. The guy would add stacks of big athletic talent to the All Blacks pack and is near on impossible to stop one on one.</span></p>
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<p>A superstar of the U20s, but didn't make the 2015 Holden Cup team of the year.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.nrl.com/2015-holden-cup-team-of-the-year/tabid/11525/newsid/89792/default.aspx'>https://www.nrl.com/2015-holden-cup-team-of-the-year/tabid/11525/newsid/89792/default.aspx</a></p>
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<p>It's great he may be coming back. But I wouldn't get my hopes up that he will be anything special, especially at test level. </p>