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    @Rapido said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    How is TTT? Genuine question. Haven't seen him play this year.

    He's on the bench for us at the moment behind Luke Campbell. I think he has been returning from injury - there are no injury updates from the Union so it's been difficult to tell what's form and what's injury in the selections. He knew how to set up the final match winning try in the 83rd minute yesterday though:

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Some more on the red card

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

    Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Some more on the red card

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

    Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

    At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

    Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

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    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Some more on the red card

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

    Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

    At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

    Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

    Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

    I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

    For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Some more on the red card

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

    Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

    At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

    Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

    Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

    I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

    For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

    Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

    Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

    I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Some more on the red card

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby

    Not a bad piece from Cully. I didn’t necessarily agree with the no mitigating circumstances line, but we are talking about small degrees of body height and contact point.

    At times players are MUCH lower. in this case it wasn't even close to being enough

    Concussion is a serious danger to players and rugby itself. the administrators need to be very hard on players that do these head tackles. It needs to be stamped out. Otherwise rugby could in the future maybe be sued for not taking this issue seriously enough

    Yes I know. Not sure what your point is though.

    I didn’t oppose the RC, it’s more the line that Berry said that there were no mitigating factors.

    For me there is an avenue of defence to minimise further sanction at the judiciary that the ABs could take though.

    Ofa skates pretty close on a lot of his hits. He's not leaving himself an awful lot of room for error. And this is exactly what World Rugby wants, that target point to drop right down.

    Yes, he is a big unit, but he needs to change, not the laws.

    I personally don't like it, but at least i can understand the rationale.

    I agree. Some serious hip flexibility work might be coming his way from Nic Gill

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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    I personally don't like it

    Why not.

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    @Winger said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    I personally don't like it

    Why not.

    because for me, and this is just my personal opinion, red cards should be for serious foul play. Neither one on the weekend meet my threshold for that.

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    Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

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    @mariner4life yeah it's a tough one.

    Priority 1 - health and safety of players
    Priority 2 - maintain the integrity of a a full contact sport

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    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

    and i absolutely don't disagree with that. I have a problem with a tackle gone wrong being the same punishment as a full-blooded punch. I am very aware i am in the minority there though

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @MN5 said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Most of that is down to their personalities I believe

    All the interviews I've seen with Akira he's seemed like a pretty chilled bloke, and when Reiko was doing those videos for the ABs he didn't seem any different than say Jane when he used to do the videos.

    I can't actually understand why they wind people up so much.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @mariner4life said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

    and i absolutely don't disagree with that. I have a problem with a tackle gone wrong being the same punishment as a full-blooded punch. I am very aware i am in the minority there though

    I'm with you, there's no way a tackle gone wrong is the same as a punch, a knee, a kick, a bite etc.

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    @mariner4life Maybe they need Yellow, Orange and Red. Orange is for careless tackles around head. 10 minutes in bin and on report, red only for intentional foul play like eating someone's ear.
    Edit, na fuck 3 cards, too confusing, yellow and report.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

    FFS, he's going to have to watch himself now, he'll need to be squeaky clean from now on.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

    FFS, he's going to have to watch himself now, he'll need to be squeaky clean from now on.

    people are going to have to fall a long way down for him to hit them in the scone

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  • chimoausC Offline
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    @Nepia said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Hooper was pretty clear in his press conference, we don't train to tackle the head, so it shouldn't happen in the game, players need to be better.

    FFS, he's going to have to watch himself now, he'll need to be squeaky clean from now on.

    He would probably need to leap to hit a players head 🙂

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    @Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    Just realised Fakatava plays for Dunedin (my old club), so he plays for the magpies but doesn't have a local club? i guess club rugby lines up with the super calendar better, never really giving it much thought

    He plays for Hastings R&S, I think that's his main club, he'll only play club rugby for Dunedin when the Highlanders want to give him game time I suspect.

    It happens with Magpies players in other franchises as well.

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in Bledisloe Four: Brisbane, 7 November:

    @Kiwiwomble did someone say he is not yet qualified to play for NZ, and may even opt for Tonga (which IMO is the best route if he is still awaiting qualification)

    I'm not sure he'll opt for Tonga, he would likely have gone to the RWC last year with them if that was the case.

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    Hooper’s tackle technique is actually very good. He’s not the biggest guy height or weight wise, so he’s not trying to “front on” players like Swinton or Ofa (and many others). He gets in low and targets the rib cage.

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