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Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18

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    Great response, not much to complain about, selections all played out really well, Fozzie haters will be disappointed. Midfield defense was great, and looses also seemed to gel really well this game. Set piece was good but don’t know what happened with Laulala. Loved TJ and Hodgeman of the bench and what a game from Caleb Clarke. I do have to wonder what Jordie is adding on the wing, didn’t see much chasing and a couple of times we seemed to be craving pace on his wing. Don’t think he can be in that position long term but perhaps it’s a way of building his confidence for the future. Let’s face it despite last week this AB team is just better than the Wallabies and I honestly think Rennie is squeezing every last drop out of them.

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    @pakman Ok. 2023. Feel better.

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    Oh yeah my one big bugbear from this game - our kick chase is awful. 99% of the time there is absolutely zero pressure on receivers, not even close. I guess it worked ok in this game but it's frustrating to watch the opposition given a free pass.

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    @broughie said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @pakman Ok. 2023. Feel better.

    Sorry: just teasing!

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    @pakman judging by his previous posts I reckon @broughie is probably feeling a little thin skinned today.

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    @Bones No. Everything’s golden. Just rewatching in case I missed something.

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    @cgrant said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Ioane : 7.5. A big step up from last week. Showed much more dynamism.

    Assume you mean Savea?

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    @cgrant

    Moody : 5. Tackled more aggressively than last week but missed an important one. Not his best year under the black jersey.

    He didn't exactly miss it. He was knocked out in the attempt.

    I defy anyone to try and tackle someone when you're involuntarily asleep.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Oh yeah my one big bugbear from this game - our kick chase is awful. 99% of the time there is absolutely zero pressure on receivers, not even close. I guess it worked ok in this game but it's frustrating to watch the opposition given a free pass.

    Agreed, but I think defensive teams are far better at strategically placing defenders in tramlines in front of the receiving winger. They simply hold their line and the attacking winger has to make their way through a maze of defenders to reach the receiver.
    I think the box kick/chase is more effective when the 9 doesn't take an eternity to place all his blockers first.

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @cgrant said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Ioane : 7.5. A big step up from last week. Showed much more dynamism.

    Assume you mean Savea?

    Only way Akira's going to get a game under Foz, I suspect. Disguise himself as Ardie Savea.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Oh yeah my one big bugbear from this game - our kick chase is awful. 99% of the time there is absolutely zero pressure on receivers, not even close. I guess it worked ok in this game but it's frustrating to watch the opposition given a free pass.

    I don't agree it worked on account of the fact we never got any back!

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    @booboo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @cgrant said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Ioane : 7.5. A big step up from last week. Showed much more dynamism.

    Assume you mean Savea?

    @cgrant

    I'll edit for you because I'll promote your post to the front page.

    Top effort.

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    @chimoaus said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @Bones said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Oh yeah my one big bugbear from this game - our kick chase is awful. 99% of the time there is absolutely zero pressure on receivers, not even close. I guess it worked ok in this game but it's frustrating to watch the opposition given a free pass.

    Agreed, but I think defensive teams are far better at strategically placing defenders in tramlines in front of the receiving winger. They simply hold their line and the attacking winger has to make their way through a maze of defenders to reach the receiver.
    I think the box kick/chase is more effective when the 9 doesn't take an eternity to place all his blockers first.

    Well it's been working for Aus and in SRA... and previous years. Looks to be a tactic to focus more on the tackle/breakdown.

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    Congratulations to new All Blacks Alex Hodgman and Peter Umaga-Jensen.

    Alex Hodgman looks like excellent cover for Joe Moody.

    Peter U-J is a more than useful player coming off the bench at 12 or 13.

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    @junior said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @pakman said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    If I were Rennie, I'd tinker, but tell the boys to use defeat as a lesson and just to be better next time. Young men.

    Obviously Toomua needs looking at with the injury. Koroibete extremely unlikely to play that badly again.

    I'm not yet convinced Tupou is more than a flat track bully with ball in hand although his threat value isn't used enough to decoy IMHO.

    The skill level is higher than previous squads and that's what we need to start building on. Do that, but like you say don't change too much - just identify that there is less time and space and maybe put away the flick passes.

    Hanigan's ball to Hooper after his break was an example- ball in two hands, end over end like a league pass instead of bullet spiral at the chest, waiting until he'd fixed the defender. Quicker and easier, keeps the opposition guessing, commits a number. The younger guys (Wright, Wilson, Uelese) all tried to go out the back of the hand too close to contact and fucked it.

    Spoken like a true forward... that was actually a terribly timed pass by Hannigan. Instead of drawing in the defender, he threw it far too early and Hooper got two defenders instead of one (or more likely none).

    But Hanigan was there to cover the ruck because he wasn't in contact on the ground, and they weren't going to shift him.

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    @sparky said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @booboo said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @cgrant said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Ioane : 7.5. A big step up from last week. Showed much more dynamism.

    Assume you mean Savea?

    Only way Akira's going to get a game under Foz, I suspect. Disguise himself as Ardie Savea.

    Too short, it would be immediately noticeable

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    @DMX said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I do have to wonder what Jordie is adding on the wing, didn’t see much chasing and a couple of times we seemed to be craving pace on his wing.

    Couldn't help but think - when we kicked ahead into the in goal and Jordie was beaten in the chase - Will Jordan missed out on his first test try! 🙂

    Think Will (and a couple of others) will be waiting for a game vs Argentina.

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    @Chris-B said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    @DMX said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    I do have to wonder what Jordie is adding on the wing, didn’t see much chasing and a couple of times we seemed to be craving pace on his wing.

    Couldn't help but think - when we kicked ahead into the in goal and Jordie was beaten in the chase - Will Jordan missed out on his first test try! 🙂

    Think Will (and a couple of others) will be waiting for a game vs Argentina.

    I thought it was more noticeable earlier when BB made a break from inside our 23 and when he looked to pass to his right wing Jordie was well back.

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    @Bones said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:

    Oh yeah my one big bugbear from this game - our kick chase is awful. 99% of the time there is absolutely zero pressure on receivers, not even close. I guess it worked ok in this game but it's frustrating to watch the opposition given a free pass.

    100%. There was one kick we put up into the sun and then hardly chased. The Aus player completely lost it and it bounced back in field. A decent chase would have had them in some strife there!

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    Really enjoyable game of footy. Oz were right in it but, I thought, started chasing the game too early which played into our hands. 20 point margin unfair on them.

    Still loads of work ons for AB's but some positives from the debutants. Stepped up the intensity, got into the face of the Aussies and most importantly weren't listless round the ruck fringes as we were in Game 1.

    Beer tastes much better after an AB victory.

    Still not totally convinced we are on the right track but definite step up from Game 1

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