Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
so...in the last 10 minutes ive seen posts on the socials saying
BB didn't train today
JB seen limping with an icepack
and obviously WhitelockMy Barrett voodoo dolls are working.
Not quite.
**Plumtree confirmed Scott Barrett was available to be selected this week, though the team was balancing the best route for his return after so long out of the game.**So straight to starting blindside it is..
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@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Where you lurking @bayimports
Haven’t got anything yet guys!
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
People have selective memories. Mo'unga has played several good tests. Remember that test in Pretoria in 2018 when BB started at 10? BB had a poor game, and the game lifted when Mo'unga came on (and BB shifted to fullback). We narrowly won that game.
There are more examples of tests in which he played well.IMO the main problem are the lack of an answer to the rush defence and our pack just not functioning the way it used to. I also think there's a direct relationship between the game plan and how players perform. Our current game plan doesn't work. The captain and senior players must also have the courage to deviate from that plan mid-game if it doesn't work (Mo'unga isn't a senior player).
That's why I have him on the bench. He actually provides a lot of spark when he comes on later in the game, and that test was a great example of what he can do in that role. At this stage of his career he's a bit of a deer in the headlights when the test is tight and defenses are fresh/rushing up on him.
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@Stargazer said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Fake news bullshit. Just another part of the misinformation campaign
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@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Fake news bullshit. Just another part of the misinformation campaign
Sad that we've fallen so far too have to resort to chieka style squad shenanigans!
And this too, disgusting "Foster is due to name the team on Friday at 11.30am."
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@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
so...in the last 10 minutes ive seen posts on the socials saying
BB didn't train today
JB seen limping with an icepack
and obviously WhitelockBut I hear Damian McKenzie and Brad Weber were training the house down. Happy days ahead
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"All Blacks don't cry"
Ok so what is it that you are doing, plums?
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@NTA said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Stargazer said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
And this too, disgusting "Foster is due to name the team on Friday at 11.30am."
Since just prior to WRC this means team gets named internally tomorrow and released to public on Friday and potentially leaked somewhere between those times lol
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@bayimports be that as it may, Thursday 0600 local, should be sacrosanct!
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Oh yay Mo'unga to get another start at 10......
Someone needs to get experience. We don't want a situation where we only have one five-eighth.
do we have that now?
Yes, he has an injured archilles.
i thought we all decided he was no more than okay at 10? or are we just happy to have that level of output now?
I think we were wrong. I was one of those who thought maybe he was a better fullback, but that was when we had Cruden and Sopoaga as 10 options. I think the facts speak for themselves - when he was at 10, he was WR player of the twice in a row and we actually went a lot better than we are now (some similar issues, yes)
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@Bones said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@NTA love how you're making predictions for the second game and not the first, playing it safe.
Note: close first game with Wallabies looking good means second game at Eden Park means Wallabies get thrashed.
58-3 looks like a safe bet.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Kirwan said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@mariner4life said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@antipodean said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
Oh yay Mo'unga to get another start at 10......
Someone needs to get experience. We don't want a situation where we only have one five-eighth.
do we have that now?
Yes, he has an injured archilles.
i thought we all decided he was no more than okay at 10? or are we just happy to have that level of output now?
Can't pick 2005 Dan Carter, so just have to pick the best we have and that's BB.
RM has a long way to go to get to BB's standard. And we need to start developing other options to help RM improve and give us a backup plan if this is his ceiling.
Reminds me of the Mannix/Bachop days. No stand out options, waiting for a Merhts to appear on the horizon.
That's a pretty harsh comparison to make with 2x WR player of the year BB
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@Chris said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@African-Monkey said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@mariner4life No doubt, however, that is a massive IF. Some guys can develop the required skills on the go (Nonu springs to mind) and I hope Mo'unga can for the benefit of the national side, but my concern is, is that he hasn't had to change a hell of a lot at Super Rugby due to his side being so successful and has only really had to play in the one style,which hasn't transferred to test level. I hope that he has started to realise that other aspects of his game need to develop which I'm sure he has if he is to succeed at this level, otherwise I can't see him lasting that long if he thinks he can just transfer the same stuff from Super level to Test level.
Im expecting big things from him at Eden Park or whatever its called now, he certainly needs a big test.
No doubt. But First Five is a learning curve position in Test Rugby. if we look back BB,Merts were not a roaring success straight away.
DC was eased in at 2nd five for a season.
It takes time at First Five we need to stay with RM for a while no doubt he needs to improve but if BB is having achilles problems they can hang around for some time and can flare up again, pick Ioane he's no.1 who is next if he goes down if you take RM out of the picture with BB injured.
No need to panic yet up, front is the problem we have been bullied and out played there in the last 2 tests.The LF mix is fucked up and our best FB is on the wing Foster needs to sort a lot of shit out maybe find a decisive game plan I don't see one yet.
If you don't at least get parity up front you don't win.Mehts was an immediate roaring success.
finished in fat whimper 8 years later though.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
"All Blacks don't cry"
Ok so what is it that you are doing, plums?
Yeah I don't like it when we bleat in the media thats the Aussie,English way not the AB's way to deal with things ,sort it out on the field get physical impose yourselves is this the start of a soft AB's underbelly I really hope not.
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@Machpants said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
"All Blacks don't cry"
Ok so what is it that you are doing, plums?
fuck as if i wasn't already disappointed enough in this coaching group
we are Cheika's wallabies. start saying goodbye to trophies
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Wallaby fans must find it hilarious to see the hyperventilating about BB and RM, when they have O'Connor at 10. Excellent player but not a test standard flyhalf.
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@Nepia said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
@Kiwiwomble said in Bledisloe Two: Auckland, October 18:
so...in the last 10 minutes ive seen posts on the socials saying
BB didn't train today
JB seen limping with an icepack
and obviously WhitelockMy Barrett voodoo dolls are working.
Hopefully all short term despite your efforts. What did you do to older brother Kane? Chuck the doll under a stampeding herd of cattle?
