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    @gt12 said in Crusaders v Blues:

    @junior

    I think this is a good point, he doesn’t have or hasn’t shown a lot of versatility. As a fullback/wing, I think he should be able to go 11/14/15 and if he can’t he’s not quite good enough to hold 11.

    Personally, I’d pick Rieko and Clarke because Clarke is very very good under the high ball and has so much scope to be a real weapon. However, it’s probably a year too soon so the selectors will have some choices to make, and Reece is playing very well.

    I don’t like him in the team, but he’s been very good the couple of games so it’s hard to see him being dropped.

    There is also Jordan. Plus Jordie is playing well.

    On form, the player to leave out at 15 is Dmac; we’ll see whether Foster pulls the chain or not.

    For Havili, I think last week showed he’s much better defending in traffic. He’s a very good player who is clearly international standard, but I don’t see a place him.

    If Bridge has plans on a serious long-term future in black, then he has to adapt and become more like Ben Smith - the wing / fullback - than Caleb Ralph - the carthorse. There are too many good back three players that offer more of an attacking threat and are more in-line with our recent selections in that part of the field. He therefore has to add that "second fullback" string to his bow.

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    @junior said in Crusaders v Blues:

    BridgeHowlett's problem is that his key selling points are being "solid" and capable of running reasonably fast in a straight line. Now, I'm not saying that these aren't valuable attributes, but they just don't cut it at test level. There generally has to be something more on offer.

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    @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

    @junior said in Crusaders v Blues:

    BridgeHowlett's problem is that his key selling points are being "solid" and capable of running reasonably fast in a straight line. Now, I'm not saying that these aren't valuable attributes, but they just don't cut it at test level. There generally has to be something more on offer.

    Bridge is nowhere near Howlett in terms of either ability or pace. Howlett also had the ability to play fullback, so thanks for proving my point.

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    @junior actually yeah something I didn't warm to seeing on Saturday....Telea didn't appear to have a great top end eh.

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    @junior said in Crusaders v Blues:

    @Bones said in Crusaders v Blues:

    @junior said in Crusaders v Blues:

    BridgeHowlett's problem is that his key selling points are being "solid" and capable of running reasonably fast in a straight line. Now, I'm not saying that these aren't valuable attributes, but they just don't cut it at test level. There generally has to be something more on offer.

    Bridge is nowhere near Howlett in terms of either ability or pace. Howlett also had the ability to play fullback, so thanks for proving my point.

    Bridge has played fullback so that’s covered.

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    I suspect and I might be wrong ,

    if they were picking a test side to play right now , they might revert back to Reiko at 11,

    Even though he is playing 13, he seems to be over whatever it was that was troubling him last year , and he was the best 11 in the world before that slump

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    @kiwiinmelb said in Crusaders v Blues:

    I suspect and I might be wrong ,

    if they were picking a test side to play right now , they might revert back to Reiko at 11,

    Even though he is playing 13, he seems to be over whatever it was that was troubling him last year , and he was the best 11 in the world before that slump

    Might?

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    @pukunui what a complete and utter load of crap🙄

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    @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Crusaders v Blues:

    I suspect and I might be wrong ,

    if they were picking a test side to play right now , they might revert back to Reiko at 11,

    Even though he is playing 13, he seems to be over whatever it was that was troubling him last year , and he was the best 11 in the world before that slump

    Might?

    Will ?

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    Bridge would help his cause he if showed he could play on the right wing too. If it's a choice between him and Rieko on the left wing, then Rieko every time.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @booboo said in Crusaders v Blues:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Crusaders v Blues:

    I suspect and I might be wrong ,

    if they were picking a test side to play right now , they might revert back to Reiko at 11,

    Even though he is playing 13, he seems to be over whatever it was that was troubling him last year , and he was the best 11 in the world before that slump

    Might?

    Will ?

    Pretty sure.

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    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Bridge would help his cause he if showed he could play on the right wing too. If it's a choice between him and Reiko on the left wing, then Reiko every time.

    @Bovidae said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    Bridge would help his cause he if showed he could play on the right wing too. If it's a choice between him and Reiko on the left wing, then Reiko every time.

    I agree , and if he is used as that high work rate clean up guy , he could suit the mix on the other side

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    I Think I would like to see it as Reiko v Clarke for the left,

    And perhaps a shootout for the right with the crusaders players for that hybrid fullback role

    Bridge , Jordan , havilli ?

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    @Stag said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @pukunui what a complete and utter load of crap🙄

    Haha ok. So Bridge made the first up tackle and Telea was well positioned and solid under the high ball all night?

    Nice inside pass though.
    Bridge must be using the same low bar of excellence that James Blackwell and Michael Collins get to use.

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    Reiko needs to be left at centre now. He has made the move a bit earlier than most wingers but now he has, he needs to develop the experience there. Moving him around again will be a backward step.

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    @pukunui said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Chris-B said in Crusaders v Blues:

    Bearing in mind the results of that player poll about the best wing in NZ, and that most of the people being touted as the potential AB wings were playing in this game - you'd have to say that the somewhat-maligned George Bridge answered his critics.

    If this was an old-school AB trial, I'd pick Bridge and Ioane as the two wings (ignoring considerations of who plays left and right).

    I can’t see the AB selectors dropping Bridge even though i would like to see others selected before him.

    As a counter point to the broadly held view that he was “excellent” in this game. It is worth noting that he was the one who had a bad first up tackle miss on Telea which lead to him beating Havili and Bridge having to chase him back to make the tackle the commentators were raving about.

    His kick chasing efforts were also greatly aided by Telea shitting the bed in that regard.

    Nice pass back inside for the Drummond try though.
    But Ioane would have scored that himself...........

    Bridge clearly had the best game of any of the wings on display though - excepting Rieko who was also very good, but he was at centre. Talea was found a bit wanting and Clarke was largely invisible.

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    Sotutu could be out for a bit.....the dreaded aye see el....

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    @Nogusta bugger

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    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @junior

    I think this is a good point, he doesn’t have or hasn’t shown a lot of versatility. As a fullback/wing, I think he should be able to go 11/14/15 and if he can’t he’s not quite good enough to hold 11.

    Personally, I’d pick Rieko and Clarke because Clarke is very very good under the high ball and has so much scope to be a real weapon. However, it’s probably a year too soon so the selectors will have some choices to make, and Reece is playing very well.

    I don’t like him in the team, but he’s been very good the couple of games so it’s hard to see him being dropped.

    There is also Jordan. Plus Jordie is playing well.

    On form, the player to leave out at 15 is Dmac; we’ll see whether Foster pulls the chain or not.

    For Havili, I think last week showed he’s much better defending in traffic. He’s a very good player who is clearly international standard, but I don’t see a place him.

    Word. Clarke had to be in, he is a real weapon with all the extra skills.

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    @Machpants said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @gt12 said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @junior

    I think this is a good point, he doesn’t have or hasn’t shown a lot of versatility. As a fullback/wing, I think he should be able to go 11/14/15 and if he can’t he’s not quite good enough to hold 11.

    Personally, I’d pick Rieko and Clarke because Clarke is very very good under the high ball and has so much scope to be a real weapon. However, it’s probably a year too soon so the selectors will have some choices to make, and Reece is playing very well.

    I don’t like him in the team, but he’s been very good the couple of games so it’s hard to see him being dropped.

    There is also Jordan. Plus Jordie is playing well.

    On form, the player to leave out at 15 is Dmac; we’ll see whether Foster pulls the chain or not.

    For Havili, I think last week showed he’s much better defending in traffic. He’s a very good player who is clearly international standard, but I don’t see a place him.

    Word. Clarke had to be in, he is a real weapon with all the extra skills.

    Needs a touch more experience and he looks like he could be Bridge with a bit more power.

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