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    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
    Same solid self. Unflustered.

    A ringing endorsement

    It's easy to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
    Same solid self. Unflustered.

    A ringing endorsement

    So what does he have to do then?

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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
    Same solid self. Unflustered.

    A ringing endorsement

    So what does he have to do then?

    Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

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    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    distribute like Robinson

    You couldn't help yourself could you.

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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    distribute like Robinson

    You couldn't help yourself could you.

    He mistyped Robertson

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  • D Offline
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    I think Goodhue is fine, does everything well, not exceptional at anything, just a solid center.
    Until someone exceptional does come along, I like his mistake free play.
    12 has to be ALB, but he seems really out of form this season.

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    replied to Bones on last edited by
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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    distribute like Robinson

    You couldn't help yourself could you.

    I hope he cleaned his keyboard and monitor afterwards.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
    Same solid self. Unflustered.

    A ringing endorsement

    So what does he have to do then?

    Like I've said a few times, I'm not advocating for anyone else at this point. He's a good 13 and deserves his spot. I just think he has become a bit overrated for simply being solid.

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    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
    Same solid self. Unflustered.

    A ringing endorsement

    So what does he have to do then?

    Like I've said a few times, I'm not advocating for anyone else at this point. He's a good 13 and deserves his spot. I just think he has become a bit overrated for simply being solid.

    I can't figure out if you're talking about Smith now. 😉

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    @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    McKenzie on the other hand is at a real risk of missing out if he continues with his current vein of form.

    Shocker of a game against the 'Canes - apart from one brilliant tackle.

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    #191

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    Thought his form in RWC2019 was as impressive as any other AB - probably better.

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    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

    Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

    That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Frank said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @voodoo said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @nzzp sure, I'm not really talking about his Super form this year, more his body of work in black. Has it really been that impressive? Last RWC for example?

    One of the few players who played well in our loss to England.
    Same solid self. Unflustered.

    A ringing endorsement

    So what does he have to do then?

    Run lines like Conrad, hit hard in defence like Frank, distribute like Robinson, get over the ball like Tana....that’s all

    Mark Robinson was hardly one of the great AB centres. His career was just too brief. That guy that @taniwharugby knows though, boy oh boy I hear he was a good un.

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    @MN5 so his international career was two Tests in 2000 and seven in 2002. That's rancid bait for @taniwharugby

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    @Bones said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @ACT-Crusader said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    distribute like Robinson

    You couldn't help yourself could you.

    It’s always good to keep you fellas on your toes 😉

    So when do we name this first AB team, I’ve got a few suggestions...

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    replied to Victor Meldrew on last edited by
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

    Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

    That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

    I agree that the ALB / Goodhue midfield is our best currently, but I wonder if they are a bit samey. Would our midfield be better served, in the longer-term, with someone else in the 12 or 13 jersey? Neither of them are real bruisers. Nor are they super quick with the ability to skin someone on the outside. Neither of them is a second play-maker who can take some of the load off our 10.

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    @junior the resurgence of ALB last year seemed to coincide with him getting a lot of the pace back that he used to have - when he used to be capable of playing wing.

    I see where you're coming from though...Josh Ioane at 12? Or just Mounga shuffles out to make room for Mitch Hunt.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    @junior said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    @cgrant said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    The 13 jersey should be for Goodhue or Rieko Ioane.

    Have to disagree. The last thing we need is another 4 years of buggering about with midfield combinations. Stick with Goodhue/ALB and build the understanding.

    That said, I'd want Reiko in the squad covering 11, 13 & 14. He had a shit 2019 in black but is just too a player to abandon.

    I agree that the ALB / Goodhue midfield is our best currently, but I wonder if they are a bit samey. Would our midfield be better served, in the longer-term, with someone else in the 12 or 13 jersey? Neither of them are real bruisers. Nor are they super quick with the ability to skin someone on the outside. Neither of them is a second play-maker who can take some of the load off our 10.

    All fair points.

    Not saying Fozzie shouldn't try things out and develop more midfield talent, but we need to have some sort of settled combination as a baseline. ALB is a class player but has never been able to settle in a position at Test level, IMHO.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    ALB is a class player but has never been able to settle in a position at Test level, IMHO.

    Despite having a personal chip on my shoulder about the Chiefs, ALB is absolutely outstanding and should be a starter wherever you squeeze him.

    My addled memory is that he was one of our best at the RWC. Hopefully Fozzie can unlock our midfield AND PICK A SETTLED GODDAMN COMBINATION

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    @nzzp said in AB squad for the Bledisloe Cup?:

    My addled memory is that he was one of our best at the RWC.

    Like his commitment as well. A lot of other players would have taken the big spondoolies in Japan or France if they'd been mucked about like he seems to have been.

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