Lance
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@voodoo I tried to suss him out using my homemade psychological analysis and the best I could come up with are all those same characteristics of all goats - proper goats like lance, Jordan, gretsky, hadlee, even Ritchie - they've just got to be different than you want them to be otherwise, no goatness.
You can't be driven to the max and be a good fluffybunny. I reckon
But Lance also strikes me as one of those blokes you don't want in your life, no matter the self esteem boost. A man with no remorse capabilities
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@Siam add Tiger, Schumacher plus a few others to that list too, these types are typically so focussed on thier own goals, if you are of the right mind, they will drag you up with them, but while they are on that train, they probably arent the most interesting or likeable of people, yet I think once they can stop being what they were, and start living a 'normal' life, they show more of thier personality
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@taniwharugby said in Lance:
@Siam add Tiger, Schumacher plus a few others to that list too, these types are typically so focussed on thier own goals, if you are of the right mind, they will drag you up with them, but while tthey are on that train, they probably arent the most interesting or likeable of people, yet I think once they can stop being what they were, and start living a 'normal' life, they show more of thier personality
Nick Faldo was a good example of that, by all accounts a boring unpleasant person whilst on his golfing quest but once he’d fucked up his Ryder Cup captaincy and properly retired he became a more human person.
Still a dull bugger though.
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So much capital built up to give people battling cancer hope.
And he threw it all away.
His book on defeating cancer was great. But it went straight into the bin when his cheating came out.
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I'm really looking forward to tonight
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@mariner4life said in Lance:
I'm really looking forward to tonight
What time is it on, cobber?
9 I think. Same as last week
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It's interesting when a rugby player seems to have developed a Roger Ramjet chin over the off season ...
Isn't the NRL reputed to be rife with doping?
I think what is rife (based on quiet chats) is illicit drug use which acts as a performance enhancer because it can numb pain, heighten emotions, etc. The Joey Johns story showed this.
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for those that watched it, what did we think?
The first 10 minutes i thought it had devolved in to a redemption puff piece. Thankfully, it was not.
I thought the most telling lines were from Floyd Landis, who would have every reason to hate Lance. But even he thinks it's shit how it all landed on him, just because he was the better athlete.
If it wasn't for the drug part, people would have zero fucks to give about the bullying. Look at the Jordan documentary for a watered down example. But it's become a part of the "this is worse" story.
I thought some of his answers were really open actually.
But everyone who was not a cyclist fucking hates Lance. All the affiliated people were just scathing. Funnily enough, the riders not so much.
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also, i, for what ever reason, really dislike that David Walsh. Which is weird, but he comes across as such a smug, condescending fuckwit.
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@mariner4life said in Lance:
also, i, for what ever reason, really dislike that David Walsh. Which is weird, but he comes across as such a smug, condescending fuckwit.
The same Walsh that wrote the piece about the All Black myth around 2004?
If one person did get fucked over by Lance, then it was probably Walsh.
I'll be honest and say that I love Lance. I don't expect others to agree with me and I'm cool with that. I see his cancer stuff an foundations as much greater than this cycling things. But I also have nothing but respect to those that are driven beyond belief to achieve what they want, shoving everybody in their path out of the way. They are a special breed of people and I wish I had 10% of it.
Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.
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@MajorRage said in Lance:
Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.
It takes me two weeks to do that, so you're flying mate.
.....and I wouldn't have run the equivalent of a marathon in my whole life. stop putting yourself down @MajorRage
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@MajorRage said in Lance:
Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.
It takes me two weeks to do that, so you're flying mate.
.....and I wouldn't have run the equivalent of a marathon in my whole life. stop putting yourself down @MajorRage
Ha, thanks lads ... I wasn't compliment fishing tho. I know my place in life. I dig my family-time, down-time and beers with mates time far too much to have ever been a super successful hotshot. I'm cool with it. Most of the time.
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@MajorRage said in Lance:
He robbed clean, hard-working riders of wins.
Along with unicorns, mermaids and the BFG.
Yawn. Same old line the Lance Armstrong apologists always trot out. "Everyone else was at it." No they all weren't.
Each to their own, but a cheating **** (who rightly got caught) ain't my idea of a hero.
