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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    So much capital built up to give people battling cancer hope.

    And he threw it all away.

    His book on defeating cancer was great. But it went straight into the bin when his cheating came out.

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    I wonder which PE drug he was taking might have given him (or at least promoted) the cancer in the first place? Not necessarily an issue, but who knows what they were up to in the early 90's.

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    @Snowy

    In episode 1 he said he had suspicions about HGH. That was the only time he took it. Not the cause, but he thought it may have helped the cancer spread

    Only a suspicion though. There's no solid evidence

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    I'm really looking forward to tonight

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    @mariner4life said in Lance:

    I'm really looking forward to tonight

    What time is it on, cobber?

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    @Siam said in Lance:

    @mariner4life said in Lance:

    I'm really looking forward to tonight

    What time is it on, cobber?

    9 I think. Same as last week

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    @Tim said in Lance:

    It's interesting when a rugby player seems to have developed a Roger Ramjet chin over the off season ...

    Isn't the NRL reputed to be rife with doping?

    I think what is rife (based on quiet chats) is illicit drug use which acts as a performance enhancer because it can numb pain, heighten emotions, etc. The Joey Johns story showed this.

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    for those that watched it, what did we think?

    The first 10 minutes i thought it had devolved in to a redemption puff piece. Thankfully, it was not.

    I thought the most telling lines were from Floyd Landis, who would have every reason to hate Lance. But even he thinks it's shit how it all landed on him, just because he was the better athlete.

    If it wasn't for the drug part, people would have zero fucks to give about the bullying. Look at the Jordan documentary for a watered down example. But it's become a part of the "this is worse" story.

    I thought some of his answers were really open actually.

    But everyone who was not a cyclist fucking hates Lance. All the affiliated people were just scathing. Funnily enough, the riders not so much.

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    also, i, for what ever reason, really dislike that David Walsh. Which is weird, but he comes across as such a smug, condescending fuckwit.

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    @sparky said in Lance:

    He robbed clean, hard-working riders of wins.

    Along with unicorns, mermaids and the BFG.

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    replied to mariner4life on last edited by MajorRage
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    @mariner4life said in Lance:

    also, i, for what ever reason, really dislike that David Walsh. Which is weird, but he comes across as such a smug, condescending fuckwit.

    The same Walsh that wrote the piece about the All Black myth around 2004?

    If one person did get fucked over by Lance, then it was probably Walsh.

    I'll be honest and say that I love Lance. I don't expect others to agree with me and I'm cool with that. I see his cancer stuff an foundations as much greater than this cycling things. But I also have nothing but respect to those that are driven beyond belief to achieve what they want, shoving everybody in their path out of the way. They are a special breed of people and I wish I had 10% of it.

    Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.

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    @MajorRage said in Lance:

    Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.

    It takes me two weeks to do that, so you're flying mate.

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    @Bones said in Lance:

    @MajorRage said in Lance:

    Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.

    It takes me two weeks to do that, so you're flying mate.

    .....and I wouldn't have run the equivalent of a marathon in my whole life. stop putting yourself down @MajorRage

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    @MN5 said in Lance:

    @Bones said in Lance:

    @MajorRage said in Lance:

    Instead of just being a slightly fat bloke on the internet talking about running 4 hours marathons.

    It takes me two weeks to do that, so you're flying mate.

    .....and I wouldn't have run the equivalent of a marathon in my whole life. stop putting yourself down @MajorRage

    Ha, thanks lads ... I wasn't compliment fishing tho. I know my place in life. I dig my family-time, down-time and beers with mates time far too much to have ever been a super successful hotshot. I'm cool with it. Most of the time.

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    @MajorRage whatever you fat fluffybunny.

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    @MajorRage said in Lance:

    @sparky said in Lance:

    He robbed clean, hard-working riders of wins.

    Along with unicorns, mermaids and the BFG.

    Yawn. Same old line the Lance Armstrong apologists always trot out. "Everyone else was at it." No they all weren't.

    Each to their own, but a cheating **** (who rightly got caught) ain't my idea of a hero.

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    @sparky said in Lance:

    No they all weren't.

    caaaaan you point me in the direction of the ones who weren't?

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    @mariner4life said in Lance:

    @sparky said in Lance:

    No they all weren't.

    caaaaan you point me in the direction of the ones who weren't?

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    I'll just point out that not testing positive doesn't mean they weren't doping...

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    @antipodean said in Lance:

    @mariner4life said in Lance:

    @sparky said in Lance:

    No they all weren't.

    caaaaan you point me in the direction of the ones who weren't?

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    I'll just point out that not testing positive doesn't mean they weren't doping...

    That's a lot of red ink....

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    @canefan i assume that's only guys who failed a test too

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