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@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:
@Bovidae said in Other Cricket 2020:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket 2020:
I'll take Wasim Akram
Bloody hell, I still have nightmares of sitting on the couch in the mid 90s when NZ were chasing a hundred odd to win and him and Waqar got five each. What a pair they were.
So how do you think those of us at Seddon Park felt?
Wasim is my favourite fast bowler.
guaranteed nightmare test for me...i still get queasy about that last innings.
They really did seem to visit every summer from memory......those were the days....now we alternate between powerhouses like Bangladesh and Sri Lanka ( minus Sangakara and Jayawardne )
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Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.
1-Gavaskar
2-Gooch
3-Bradman
4-Tendulkar
5-Sobers
6-Kallis
7-Gilchrist
8-Khan
9-Warne
10-Akram
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@ACT-Crusader without Willey there, then it gets even worse with "The bowler's Holding the batsman's Gooch" huh.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket 2020:
Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.
1-Gavaskar
2-Gooch
3-Bradman
4-Tendulkar
5-Sobers
6-Kallis
7-Gilchrist
8-Khan
9-Warne
10-Akram
11-HoldingShit team
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@mariner4life six bowlers and a wicket keeper batsman. Unbalanced as a team no matter how exceptional the players
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@nzzp said in Other Cricket 2020:
@mariner4life six bowlers and a wicket keeper batsman. Unbalanced as a team no matter how exceptional the players
It’s not my team but when you look at those first 8 names, they all know how to score test runs. Also taking 20 wickets is king in test cricket....
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@ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket 2020:
Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.
1-Gavaskar
2-Gooch
3-Bradman
4-Tendulkar
5-Sobers
6-Kallis
7-Gilchrist
8-Khan
9-Warne
10-Akram
11-HoldingGooch stands out like dogs balls much as I did admire him. Marshall would get in ahead of Holding too.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:
@ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket 2020:
Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.
1-Gavaskar
2-Gooch
3-Bradman
4-Tendulkar
5-Sobers
6-Kallis
7-Gilchrist
8-Khan
9-Warne
10-Akram
11-HoldingGooch stands out like dogs balls much as I did admire him. Marshall would get in ahead of Holding too.
I'd go for one of Bradman's contemporaries in Bill Ponsford over Gooch everytime.
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@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket 2020:
@ACT-Crusader said in Other Cricket 2020:
Not sure where to put this, but anyone else watching the BeIN Sports Cricket’s Greatest XI series. Hadn’t seen them. Pretty well put together.
1-Gavaskar
2-Gooch
3-Bradman
4-Tendulkar
5-Sobers
6-Kallis
7-Gilchrist
8-Khan
9-Warne
10-Akram
11-HoldingGooch stands out like dogs balls much as I did admire him. Marshall would get in ahead of Holding too.
I'd go for one of Bradman's contemporaries in Bill Ponsford over Gooch everytime.
Well yeah, I mean he had a very good record for the era he played in, he was definitely a personal favourite in the day ( an average of 42 vs some of the best fast bowlers ever is something to be proud of ) but others have more of a claim I would have thought.
Still, there's only one other opener in the top 10 run scorers who averaged over 50 so perhaps he's not as left field as I initially thought ?
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@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:
Average in the case of an opener is actually a telling statistic
Yeah more so than other positions, but who they play their cricket for is important too given that %50 ish of their matches will be in home conditions. Morning on day one in England is probably a bit more difficult than day one in India. Day 5 India is a different thing with a turning ball but the openers may not bat that day.
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@Snowy said in Other Cricket 2020:
@SynicBast said in Other Cricket 2020:
Average in the case of an opener is actually a telling statistic
Yeah more so than other positions, but who they play their cricket for is important too given that %50 ish of their matches will be in home conditions. Morning on day one in England is probably a bit more difficult than day one in India. Day 5 India is a different thing with a turning ball but the openers may not bat that day.
As an opener there's also statistically far less chance of getting cheeky not outs to pad the average that other batsmen get. Not taking anything away from them as they're all legends of the game but Kallis, Chanderpaul, S Waugh and Border all got heaps ( over 40 ) to help get the numbers up.
That being said I often reckon Matthew Hayden doesn't quite get the respect he might deserve given he had a bit of a flat track bully reputation.
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Fast bowlers have had good results recently
Why this is the greatest age for fast bowling in 60 years
In the last 100 Tests, pace attacks worldwide have averaged 26.26 runs per wicket, which is among the best in any 100-match period in Test history
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@Duluth said in Other Cricket 2020:
Fast bowlers have had good results recently
Why this is the greatest age for fast bowling in 60 years
In the last 100 Tests, pace attacks worldwide have averaged 26.26 runs per wicket, which is among the best in any 100-match period in Test history
How do they have ball by ball data from the first quarter of that graph? I'd love to see it!
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@Duluth said in Other Cricket 2020:
Fast bowlers have had good results recently
Why this is the greatest age for fast bowling in 60 years
In the last 100 Tests, pace attacks worldwide have averaged 26.26 runs per wicket, which is among the best in any 100-match period in Test history
Must be cos NZ have had not one, not two but THREE class pace bowlers all playing at once instead of Hadlee at one end and some shitty medium pacers at the other.
But seriously, interesting stats, never thought the period of the late 70s, 80s and early 90s would be bettered.
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I raised this earlier, there are some cracking attacks around at the moment. And we tend to lump players from the past together even if they weren't actually around at the same time.
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Lack of sport on TV (clearly) so been watching some ODI retrospective. Now, I know this won’t be popular with all but they was a section on the recent CWC. For a British audience so very much England centric. It was a bit more than just the game itself, it went into the emotions and confusion surrounding the Super Over and the aftermath. Really interesting and showed the guys in a very human way. Several of them were very regretful of how NZ lost.
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CricInfo and BBC Sport have picked their current World Test XI's in the last week.
Info's was picked by four of their commentators and the BBC was a public vote
CI
Sharma
Karunaratne
Williamson
Smith
Kohli
Stokes
de Kock
Cummins
Ashwin
Rabada
BoultBBC
Sharma
Warner
Smith
Williamson
Kohli
Stokes
de Kock
Cummins
Starc
Bumrah
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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket 2020:
I raised this earlier, there are some cracking attacks around at the moment. And we tend to lump players from the past together even if they weren't actually around at the same time.
I think despite the advances in batting technology the ebb and flow is favouring bowlers again. Pleasing that our three main pacemen ( yes including the much maligned Southee ) are playing their part in this.
