EOYT Revenue Sharing
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@sparky said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
The RFU ain't going to allow 50:50 revenue of an international at Twickenham. They have their own bills to pay.
And so do their opposition. No opposition to play means no income so there will surely be room to accommodate some sort of revenue sharing that is an awful lot better than that embarrassingly shocking one that involved England and Fiji a couple of years back
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@Higgins If the NZRU refuse to send a team, they'll arrange an extra test with Wales or Japan and fill Twickenham anyway. A large proportion of the Twickenham crowd don't come to watch the Rugby. This is especially true on a Sunday.
That said, a crowd of 8 people gathering in the UK seems a long way off at the moment, let alone 82,000.
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@Higgins said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
@sparky That may be true but Wales will need to be able to finance their team and other than Six Nations games the only other side that fills most of the NOrthern grounds to capacity is the All Blacks.
Wrong, Twickenham makes a lot of its money from debenitures which are sold years in advance. Almost all games against Tier One nations are 82,000 sell outs. Lots of the crowd aren't really there to watch Rugby, but to have a sing song with thousands of others with bars nearby.
Given England is losing 700 people a day to the Coronavirus at the moment and the UK PM is in hospital. Threatening them at the moment (especially with a basically empty threat) is an appalling negotiation strategy.
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Over 340 out of 500 odd RFU employees are currently furloughed are receivcing 85% of their wages through thr UK government's bailout scheme.
Getting most of them back to work and making up its £50 million shortfall will byethe RFU's main priorities.
Some interesting quotes from RFU boss Bill Sweeney here, talking about maximising their revenue in the Autumn but acknowledging major changes to the global game are now necessary.
RFU boss reveals the breathtaking cuts made behind closed doors
The RFU's high ranking officials - including Eddie Jones - have taken pay cuts but the damage for English rugby's rank and file has been far more considerable.
RFU hopes to avoid using autumn international proceeds to help others
The RFU is hoping it will not have to offer struggling governing bodies elsewhere any financial handouts after the autumn internationals, according to its chief executive, Bill Sweeney
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Hopefully Sweeney is being honest when he says this could help the game long term. I'm sure he's hoping this will help get private premiership clubs under control. The real fly in the ointment is CVC, as they don't give a shit about anything but their money.
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@Machpants Stand alone internationals make little sense financially. I supect to see some move towards a global season which the RFU will welcome so long as it doesn't threaten the cash cow of the 6 Nations.
The club game in Europe has been pissing away money for years. I expect to see National unions in the north try to exert more discipline and control on how money gets spent. Post-COVID 19, I wouldn't be surprised to see global playoffs between HEC and Super Rugby finalists.
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How cash strapped are the clubs? Traditionally the biggest obstacle to anything sensible in rationalising the professional calendar.
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@antipodean said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
How cash strapped are the clubs? Traditionally the biggest obstacle to anything sensible in rationalising the professional calendar.
Many are on the brink of financial ruin.
Bath, Newcastle and Worcester Warriors have furloughed their players:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/rugby-union/52141413 -
@sparky said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
@antipodean said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
How cash strapped are the clubs? Traditionally the biggest obstacle to anything sensible in rationalising the professional calendar.
On the brink of financial ruin.
So hopefully they'll be more amenable to discussions than they've previously been. That goes for the SRU et al. who torpedoed the last attempt to a global calendar.
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@antipodean Several other clubs have slashed wages. A lot of former ABs playing in Europe might well now return to the NPC/Super Rugby.
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Some interesting quotes here from World Rugby boss Bill Beaumont calling on governments to bail out atruggling Rugby unions:
Bill Beaumont on fears that rugby faces financial apocalypse
EXCLUSIVE BY CHRIS FOY: Bill Beaumont has warned rugby's global community that 'everyone will suffer' in the fall-out from the coronavirus shutdown, called for unity and more state help.
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@antipodean said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
How cash strapped are the clubs? Traditionally the biggest obstacle to anything sensible in rationalising the professional calendar.
Problem is, UK at least, they have always been cash strapped. Then their Sugar Daddy just pumps more in. Only Exeter made a profit last year. Hopefully sugar Daddies will dry up as cash machines, CVC already own part of the Premiership - and that is a major problem. The piddling amount of money those clubs got for that will ahve already been pissed against the wall on over inflated wages.
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Filling the stadia post-Covid is not going to be a problem regardless of the opposition.
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@MiketheSnow said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
Filling the stadia post-Covid is not going to be a problem regardless of the opposition.
That is the issue that some of you guys don't quite see. The RFU, WRU et al can fill their stadia four times over. Every 6 N game at Twickenham is over subscribed fourfold. All the AIs apart from the PIs are the same. Regardless of the opposition (saving the PIs as above). It would take a long term stand with complete solidarity to try and force the issue and that could quite easily prove to be detrimental to SANZAR more than the NH unions and to be honest Aus and SA don't seem quite so bothered.
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@Catogrande said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
@MiketheSnow said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
Filling the stadia post-Covid is not going to be a problem regardless of the opposition.
That is the issue that some of you guys don't quite see. The RFU, WRU et al can fill their stadia four times over. Every 6 N game at Twickenham is over subscribed fourfold. All the AIs apart from the PIs are the same. Regardless of the opposition (saving the PIs as above). It would take a long term stand with complete solidarity to try and force the issue and that could quite easily prove to be detrimental to SANZAR more than the NH unions and to be honest Aus and SA don't seem quite so bothered.
True for the most part, although Australia's botheredness may change as they go under. They are seriously on the brink.
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@sparky said in EOYT Revenue Sharing:
The RFU ain't going to allow 50:50 revenue of an international at Twickenham. They have their own bills to pay.
Who says it has to be 50:50? England is always going to be a big draw for their home fans so there's no reason why that should result in an even split. However, they could surely charge a premium for tickets to AB matches and that's where maybe the ABs can get a slice of that premium or revenue sharing on an alternative basis, e.g. 65:35.
