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    @Tim I think it probably goes without saying Fozzie would have bought McLeod with him, but you have to assume Razor approached McLeod as well to see if he would be keen?

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    @taniwharugby Disappointing that the ABs can't do better than him.

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    @Tim possibly the preferred defence coach for Hansen, Foster and Robertson ... but you don't rate him?

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    @nzzp When was the AB defence under him particularly good?

    Just being a coach for the ABs over the last two years is not impressive.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12290683

    Foster clearly has a foot in the door following his eight years as All Blacks assistant – the final part of which finished with the disappointing third place World Cup in Japan.

    But with a team believed to feature John Plumtree, Greg Feek, Scott McLeod and, possibly, Leon MacDonald or David Hill, Foster will arrive for his interview this week well prepared and backed it seems.

    Known for his inspirational theming, Robertson must deliver a compelling presentation to sell his alternate big picture vision which delivered three successive titles for the Crusaders.

    The Herald understands his pitch will include respected Crusaders forwards coach Jason Ryan and Robertson is believed to have also recruited Hurricanes assistant Jason Holland, a scenario that may leave split loyalties in the Wellington franchise with Hurricanes head coach Plumtree on Foster's team.

    MacDonald is somewhat of a wildcard given he worked with Robertson at the Crusaders and has said he is committed to the Blues. He is, however, a sharp, valued mind and it would not surprise if Foster attempts to try and include him.

    Hill, the former Chiefs and one test first five-eighth, spent time working on the All Blacks kicking at the World Cup and is committed to joining the Chiefs under Warren Gatland but would no doubt jump at the fast track option to the national team.

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    Dropping out early seems weak to me.

    Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

    Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

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    @Chester-Draws said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Dropping out early seems weak to me.

    Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

    Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

    Sounds like a great idea to me. I mean why not accept a new job but then apply for another one? Surely that's what people at your work do too?

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    @Chester-Draws There are maybe five jobs available for these coaches. That isn't comparable with senior teaching positions, or few other occupations.

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    @Chester-Draws said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    Dropping out early seems weak to me.

    Where I work, you apply for jobs you want to show willing, even if another candidate is likely to get the position. That way the people in charge know that you are interested in promotion, and consider pathways to get you there.

    Neither Rennie nor Joseph can be so busy at the moment that they can't take a few days to be interviewed by NZR surely.

    If you are an internal candidate NZRU employed candidate - sure.

    In both cases if Rennie and Joseph didn't accept the preemptive offers the Unions probably would have needed to open applications otherwise it wouldn't be until mid-to-late January that a decision could be made at the earliest.

    Cotter showed he was willing in 2011 and where did that get him? Overlooked for a Super post by all reports.

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    @Tim at times our defence has been very good, but at others we are all over the shop

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    @Bones I was going through the Police application process a number of years back, got through all the initial testing and they wanted me to do a week of ride alongs, although I had just accepted and about to start a new job (this is 4 months after being made redundant) and they (the police) couldnt understand why I wouldnt tell my new employer of my intentions.

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    @Tim They're not exactly dream teams compared to some of the combos being proposed at the beginning of the thread.

    Basically picking through those available in NZ - with Greg Feek, who was coming home anyway.

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    So much for Feek aligning himself with Robertson.

    If that is the coaching teams Foster's looks much more rounded and has more experience (domestic and international).

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    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    @Bones I was going through the Police application process a number of years back, got through all the initial testing and they wanted me to do a week of ride alongs, although I had just accepted and about to start a new job (this is 4 months after being made redundant) and they (the police) couldnt understand why I wouldnt tell my new employer of my intentions.

    And thus, TR quit his newfound head coach job and the blues were never the same again.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/118006543/new-zealand-rugby-likely-to-offer-only-a-twoyear-contract-for-all-blacks-coach

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    @Tim said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/118006543/new-zealand-rugby-likely-to-offer-only-a-twoyear-contract-for-all-blacks-coach

    I hope that's true, because it makes sense. Neither are a proven international head coach type. Robertson a gamble, foster part of a fading regime. Two use to prove your worth. However since everyone else out there is in until next RWC, will would they find to replace them if needed?

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    I had forgotten that Hansen originally only had a 2-yr contract. Common sense from NZR.

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    @Machpants Gatland, maybe Schmidt.

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    If they only offer a 2 year one , they should start the search for the next coach now to ensure they dont miss out on anyone.

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    @taniwharugby said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:

    If they only offer a 2 year one , they should start the search for the next coach now to ensure they dont miss out on anyone.

    Apparently

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