All Black Coach - Ian Foster
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@MajorRage good coach for a couple of years and then downhill?
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After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
Robertson ? And ?
Let’s say either has Wayne Smith, then step forward please. That would sway it for me. Also, if either now had Tony Brown (yet to be contracted at Japan and could be a wildcard, although a flipflopper if that happened).
I’d also be impressed if Razor can bring back O’Gara.
What are the thoughts?
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@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage good coach for a couple of years and then downhill?
Quite possibly.
I think there is a shit ton of politics to deal with in the Wallabies camp as well. Hence a good coach, won't necessarily make a good Wallabies coach.
Lots of people (well, Cantabs) thought Deans was a coaching god, but his record with Oz not that diff to Chiek
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@MajorRage If Cheika was the AB coach we wouldn't need a video analyst, right?
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@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster has approached Colin Cooper. They were co-coaches of the JABs and Cooper is an old-school forwards coach.
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@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae No idea what your talking about
Cheika has said numerous times, including during the RWC, that he doesn't spend any time analysing the opposition teams.
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@Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae No idea what your talking about
Cheika has said numerous times, including during the RWC, that he doesn't spend any time analysing the opposition teams.
Right. Well, if thats his method, thats his method.
I'd say that in the RWC semi final, we'd spent too long analysing the opposition team.
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@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
I would 100% genuinely take Chieka over Foster.
Eh? What in the world is that based on? It being proven Cheika is a terrible coach?
Chiefs fans don't forget the Foster years.
Chieka isn't a bad coach. Not sure he's a great manager tho.
Based on?
Tahs - super rugby.
Wallabies - world cup final
Leinster - heineken cup, pro 14That's ignoring an immense amount of luck in the 2015 RWC and the work of previous coaches like Declan Kidney and Chris Hickey. What transformed the Tahs was a South African flanker and a bit of luck in the final.
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@Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster has approached Colin Cooper. They were co-coaches of the JABs and Cooper is an old-school forwards coach.
Christ.
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@MajorRage said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bones said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@MajorRage good coach for a couple of years and then downhill?
Quite possibly.
I think there is a shit ton of politics to deal with in the Wallabies camp as well. Hence a good coach, won't necessarily make a good Wallabies coach.
Lots of people (well, Cantabs) thought Deans was a coaching god, but his record with Oz not that diff to Chiek
Deans had around 56% win rate with the Wallabies compared to Cheika 52% not a lot of between them and you go back along way to find a better win ratio for The Wallabies...
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@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster has approached Colin Cooper. They were co-coaches of the JABs and Cooper is an old-school forwards coach.
Christ.
Jesus
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@Chris said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster has approached Colin Cooper. They were co-coaches of the JABs and Cooper is an old-school forwards coach.
Christ.
Jesus
Yes my children?
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@voodoo said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Chris said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@Bovidae said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
@gt12 said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
After today’s news, it’s a two horse race and depends to me entirely on who the assistants are - what’s our speculation about who they might be?
Foster will have McLeod and ?
I wouldn't be surprised if Foster has approached Colin Cooper. They were co-coaches of the JABs and Cooper is an old-school forwards coach.
Christ.
Jesus
Yes my children?
Show us the way
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Hopefully an interview will come out with Rennie and he may answer the question.
Perhaps he wants the lower pressure job of building Aus up and I'm sure it pays well. Seems like a good challenge to me.
My preference all along is Robertson, but if they choose Foster I think we are screwed, our attack is basically just try and score off turnover ball and that's about it. We finally showed a backline move against Ireland and it looked great, buts all I can remember in all the years he has been the attack coach.Edit:
Little more info here..
"“I’m a proud Kiwi but the big thing is I’ve been talking to Australia for a lot of months and the All Blacks interest came in late in the piece and by that stage, we’d done a lot of homework, we were really excited about the opportunity to go to Australia and that ended up being an easy decision,” Rennie told rugby.com.au."
Dave Rennie reveals why he opted for Wallabies over a chance with the All Blacks
Incoming Wallabies head coach Dave Rennie has spurned the chance to apply for the All Black role to take up a three-and-a-half year deal with Australia.
Guess NZRU is just dropping the ball here. Why wait till the last min to approach coaches, this should have been done age ago.
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@Darren I'm not sure that Aus job would be lower pressure - there's some good talent there from a limited pool which is what he thrives at - but if he can't get them to perform then he'll be set upon by the fans I'd say and most likely thrown under the bus.
NZRU Agent strikes again.
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@Darren said in [Poll] Next All Black Coach:
Hopefully an interview will come out with Rennie and he may answer the question.
Perhaps he wants the lower pressure job of building Aus up and I'm sure it pays well. Seems like a good challenge to me.
My preference all along is Robertson, but if they choose Foster I think we are screwed, our attack is basically just try and score off turnover ball and that's about it. We finally showed a backline move against Ireland and it looked great, buts all I can remember in all the years he has been the attack coach.Edit:
Little more info here..
"“I’m a proud Kiwi but the big thing is I’ve been talking to Australia for a lot of months and the All Blacks interest came in late in the piece and by that stage, we’d done a lot of homework, we were really excited about the opportunity to go to Australia and that ended up being an easy decision,” Rennie told rugby.com.au."
Dave Rennie reveals why he opted for Wallabies over a chance with the All Blacks
Incoming Wallabies head coach Dave Rennie has spurned the chance to apply for the All Black role to take up a three-and-a-half year deal with Australia.
Guess NZRU is just dropping the ball here. Why wait till the last min to approach coaches, this should have been done age ago.
Yeah it’s not like they haven’t know Shag was leaving for the last 2 years...
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I think my preferred option now is Robertson with joe Schmidt as assistant.
