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    @antipodean said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    Don't start that again ...

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    @antipodean said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    Zulu and Zulu Dawn are real classics.
    Many decades ago, I did my matric thesis on the Battle of Isandlwana - why the British lost so heavily - so this is a topic close to my heart. The follow up, Battle of Rorkes Drift resulted in 11 Victoria Crosses mainly to the Welsh 2nd/24th Foot Regiment.

    I am hoping there is no repeat of such bravery this Sunday!

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    Another interesting factoid for those of you who have nothing better to do with your time...

    The movie clip reminded me about the fact that the Springboks used to have a "haka" they would perform before test matches. It was a Zulu war dance called the Idlamu (or sometimes spelled Indlamu). It was largely reserved for when we played the All Blacks.

    In the 1950's, in a spat with NZ about players of colour, the National Party government and SA Rugby pulled it. This ideologically suited the Nat Government who didn't like the fact that a Zulu dance was being used in the first place. It hasn't featured again since.

    A great shame.

    If you have 15 minutes to waste, this is a great video to watch:

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    No Kolbe due to an ankle injury.

    1. Tendai Mtawarira

    2. Mbongeni Mbonambi

    3. Frans Malherbe

    4. Eben Etzebeth

    5. Lood de Jager

    6. Siya Kolisi (capt.)

    7. Pieter-Steph Du Toit

    8. Duane Vermeulen

    9. Faf de Klerk

    10. Handre Pollard

    11. Makazole Mapimpi

    12. Damian de Allende

    13. Lukhanyo Am

    14. S'Busiso Nkosi

    15. Willie Le Roux

    16. Malcolm Marx

    17. Steven Kitshoff

    18. Vincent Koch

    19. RG Snyman

    20. Franco Mostert

    21. Francois Louw

    22. Herschel Jantjies

    23. Frans Steyn

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    That would be a big blow, if they actually we're going to make use of him!

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    6-2 bench split.
    Tells you all you want to know about the Bok approach.

    Kolbe missing out due to injury is a real shame.
    @Machpants while the Boks aren't inclined to shift the ball to the wings that often, Kolbe has been outstanding under the high ball. Boks will miss that.

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    That's a real shame re Kolbe, he's been an absolute star - hopefully he is back for the finals against us

    😉

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    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    6-2 bench split.
    Tells you all you want to know about the Bok approach.

    More of the same. 🙂

    If the Welsh can get the ball wide to North and Adams they can expose the lack of defence from the Bok wingers.

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    But seriously, why would you change the approach? Sure the attack last week needed some polish - but that brutal defense and solid kicking game (Faf to sharpen up a little) is a RWC-winning approach.

    No point trying to be something you're not.

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    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    @antipodean said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    Zulu and Zulu Dawn are real classics.
    Many decades ago, I did my matric thesis on the Battle of Isandlwana - why the British lost so heavily - so this is a topic close to my heart. The follow up, Battle of Rorkes Drift resulted in 11 Victoria Crosses mainly to the Welsh 2nd/24th Foot Regiment.

    I am hoping there is no repeat of such bravery this Sunday!

    Wasn't there an issue with the ammunition cases being locked and only one key? Or am I thinking of another Imprerial balls up?

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    @Catogrande said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    Wasn't there an issue with the ammunition cases being locked and only one key? Or am I thinking of another Imprerial balls up?

    Yes. One of many bugger-ups was the supply of ammo to the soldiers in the firing lines. Traditionally controlled by the Quartermaster it became a bottleneck.
    Towards the latter part of the battle, soldiers were disobeying the rules and trying to break open the ammo boxes with their bayonets.

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    Just showing my ignorance here but aren't Marx and Titsoff the best in their positions, why don't they start?

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    @chimoaus said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    Just showing my ignorance here but aren't Marx and Titsoff the best in their positions, why don't they start?

    Their roles have been changed

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    @chimoaus said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    Just showing my ignorance here but aren't Marx and Titsoff the best in their positions, why don't they start?

    Mbonambi is actually outplaying Marx at the moment.
    Kitsoff imo is now better than Beast, but for now Rassie likes bringing him on for the latter half of the game.

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    The bench for me is the biggest difference between the sides, the Boks reserve front row is every bit as good as those starting.
    Without Navidi we lack physicality in the backrow too, Moriarty hasn't hit form much recently - he needs a huge performance.
    Both centres are crocked too which doesn't help, I can see a Bok win by 10+

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    @pooler-fan said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    The bench for me is the biggest difference between the sides, the Boks reserve front row is every bit as good as those starting.
    Without Navidi we lack physicality in the backrow too, Moriarty hasn't hit form much recently - he needs a huge performance.
    Both centres are crocked too which doesn't help, I can see a Bok win by 10+

    Just read that Liam Williams has an ankle injury.

    May be bullshit. Not sure.

    No chance without him and Jonathan Davies - who's yet to be confirmed.

    In time honoured Fern tradition, when's the team named?

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    Fuck. Not fake news

    Mark Orders  /  Oct 24, 2019  /  Rugby News

    Wales star Liam Williams out of Rugby World Cup semi-final against South Africa | Wales Online

    Wales star Liam Williams out of Rugby World Cup semi-final against South Africa | Wales Online

    The Wales and Lions full-back has picked up an ankle injury in training and his tournament looks over

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    @MiketheSnow just a scare so far.
    Don't fret until confirmed.

    Plus, Leigh Halfpenny is hardly a poor replacement.

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    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: Wales v South Africa (SF2):

    @MiketheSnow just a scare so far.
    Don't fret until confirmed.

    Plus, Leigh Halfpenny is hardly a poor replacement.

    Only our A side will be good enough against your guys

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