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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

    Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

    No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
    Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping, they'd have been perfect tackles.

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    Shag has already thought of how we can exploit the new rules. This is secret footage of contact training

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    @chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Shag interview said it was just the wrong attitude in first half. ALB said the same thing post match. Funny how β€œAttitude” can have such a big impact on how a team performs. Shows how important the upstairs is, possibly why Ioane is slightly out of sorts.

    Also shows how important the media manager’s job is and getting the talking points out as quickly as possible so everyone’s message is the same....

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    @MiketheSnow β€˜But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.

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    @Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

    Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

    No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game

    Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.

    It hit the head, so YC.

    If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.

    I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.

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    @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.
    Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.
    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping, they'd have been perfect tackles.

    See my response above

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

    Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

    No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game

    Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.

    It hit the head, so YC.

    If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.

    I know you're invested in these two incidents but it isn't that hard to grasp.

    The players have to use the arms to grapple only now, no swinging in the arms. Which is tough because it has been allowed since for ages

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    @MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow β€˜But this is how the WC is being refereed,’ he said, as if that was the final arbiter in the matter, as if money and the market had no bearing on the outcome. This World Cup is a car crash in the waiting. The lawyers are running the show....for now. The bankers and the broadcasters they serve will have the final say.

    Oh there he is

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    I thought there was a fairly clear difference between the 2 YC's, and this game could have been used to create a proper line of judgement. While both incidents saw a similar attacking position, the 1st from Nepo had a clear swinging arm. I'm OK with a penalty, and as we all know, any time you give a away a penalty, you put yourself in the refs hands WRT a card. The 2nd incident though, I really didn't think Ofa swung the arm, and I didn't think it at all worthy of a penalty (let alone a card).

    I would add that I have zero issue with contact to the head or neck when an attacker puts himself in that situation - why do we completely absolve the attacking player of their responsibilities? If you want to run that low at someone, the defender must have a right to try to stop you, and if you're leading with head, neck and shoulders, then that's what will get tackled first. Not with a swinging arm, but with a fierce brick fucking wall of arms, body, then shoulder.

    If we let this shit continue, we will see Kees Meeuws come out of retirement and make a late run for AB's highest ever try scorer.

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @Tordah said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    Some of these posts should be in the 'Favourite Comedians' thread.

    Both YC were a combination of dumb play and swinging arms.

    If the ball carriers hadn't been dropping they both would have seen red.

    No, they would have been perfectly normal tackles then, seen dozens of times in any game

    Swinging arm is swinging arm regardless of where it hits. See penalty against Tonga in Tonga v France match.

    It hit the head, so YC.

    If the ball carrier hadn't been dropping and the defender had hit the ball carrier in the head it would have been red.

    If my Aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. The discussion isn't whether hitting someone in the head becomes an instant YC according to the World Rugby matrix. It's what the player can do in the limited time available to mitigate against a player diving into the tackle.

    Ofa lines him up to tackle him around the waist.

    Once again; had the Namibian not dived so low into contact, the tackle would have been perfectly legitimate.

    This isn't (or shouldn't) be difficult to understand.

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    Hansen comments on the going very low into contact issue at 6:10.

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    @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses

    And here come the insults right on cue.

    How do you suggest the defender stop the attacking player when the attacker goes really low, close to the line, and he (the attacker) leads with his head and neck?

    I was taught to 'tackle' the ball in those circumstances.

    If the ball carrier is stretching out with the ball ahead of his head you aim for the arms and ball in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.

    If the ball carrier has the ball tucked up against his chest or under his arm you aim for where the ball is in an effort to dislodge it from the ball carrier's grasp forcing a knock on.

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    @voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MrDenmore said in RWC: All Blacks v Namibia (Pool 😎:

    @MiketheSnow and there you are. But don’t bother yourself with the effort of dealing with the argument. Just strike your weasel poses

    And here come the insults right on cue.

    A feud ? Awesome, just let me pour another drink before you get into it

    you don't have a bottle within arms reach before logging into TSF???

    And here I thought I was getting to know you...

    I most certainly did , in fact I’m drinking right now .

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    Key from Shag there was the word unavoidable, basically it is a lottery to see whose team is fucked over.

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