RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C)
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I really don't understand why Farrell is still on the pitch
Without him England have no chance
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@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@akan004 said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
how the fuck do England plan to make it through four games and have enough in the tank to win a final. they're fucked,
I agree but with Argentina being knocked out now, Jones could rest a lot of his starters against France. France beating Argentina in that first game has given England this option.
this is very true - hadn't considered that angle - but a win tonight doesn't mean they top the pool does it. Plus a loss to France, puts them into a quarter with Wales compared to Australia. They want and need to win the pool.
Yeah, that's true. If they want to avoid Wales then they will start their 1stXV against France. Wonder if they really care though about who they play in the 1/4 as Australia won't be an easy proposition either. This way they avoid us (most likely) in the semi and it helps to prevent their players from fatiguing.
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@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
this is very true - hadn't considered that angle - but a win tonight doesn't mean they top the pool does it. Plus a loss to France, puts them into a quarter with Wales compared to Australia. They want and need to win the pool.
If the Aussie forwards play like they did in the 2nd half against Wales and Cheika starts To'omua they can beat England.
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@Bovidae said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
this is very true - hadn't considered that angle - but a win tonight doesn't mean they top the pool does it. Plus a loss to France, puts them into a quarter with Wales compared to Australia. They want and need to win the pool.
If the Aussie forwards play like they did in the 2nd half against Wales and Cheika starts To'omua they can beat England.
Neither Australia nor Wales will be concerned if England rock up and play this way.
Very easy to defend against with 15 on the park.
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@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
I think Argentina checked out once the card was issued. Worst game of the WC I have seen so far.
Its been a gradual lack of interest - they certainly haven't threatened much.
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@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
I think Argentina checked out once the card was issued. Worst game of the WC I have seen so far.
Its been a gradual lack of interest - they certainly haven't threatened much.
They've been the disappointment of the RWC for me. I thought they'd stich up France and give England a run.
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@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
I think Argentina checked out once the card was issued. Worst game of the WC I have seen so far.
Its been a gradual lack of interest - they certainly haven't threatened much.
It's pretty typical Argentina if you ask me, against the big sides.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
Can see he's happy about that! Grin at not getting a yellow for elbow to the face....late...
Bullshit again
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@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@MrDenmore said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Gunner Quite. And the paying public might well ask for their money back. Even better, a class action against the piston wristed gibbons who run World Rugby.
Give it up ffs.
The guy went for a hard hit against arguably England's best / most influential player.
He got it wrong.
He was suitably punished.
It's not that difficult.
I don’t believe anyone is arguing about the crime and punishment. We can park that.
It’s about common sense and not punishing a team for one of their players actions.
Red cards have become more common than hot dinners, and I like many others see it as a problem for the game.
What the hell is this? Are you another wanting penalties removed from the game? Knock ons should be play on? We wouldn't want to punish a team for the actions of a player! It's a fricken team game.
The problem isn't the cards.
You’re being totally ridiculous now.
The point is red cards get dished out every second or third game nowadays, so do we really want to see 1/3 of rugby games decided by red cards?
I don’t, and I suspect thousands of other people don’t. People will stop watching, simple as that.
I'm not the one who started being ridiculous. You've changed your point now. So you don't mind a team being punished for the actions of a player?
Is it that hard to understand the cards aren't the problem? It's odd, I thought most of the time they don't just appear out of midair. I wonder why we would see cards in a game?
Can I have some of whatever you’re smoking?
I have not changed my point.
It’s simple, I think the amount of red cards being handed out these days is ruining too many rugby games.
You don’t.
We could go round in circles all night but instead let’s just agree to disagree.
You said a team shouldn't be punished for the actions of a player. It's right there in your posts. But yeah I'm smoking something eh?
The game hasn't been ruined by the amount of cards.
Apologies, that was a bad choice of words to use. I knew the context I was using them...
My point stands, red cards are ruining rugby.
Don’t see the issue with the red carded player being replaced after 10 minutes then being dealt with by the judiciary afterwards.
I’m telling you now, people will stop watching if the current trend of red cards continues and the system around them stays the same.
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@voodoo said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@westcoastie said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@chimoaus said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
I think Argentina checked out once the card was issued. Worst game of the WC I have seen so far.
Its been a gradual lack of interest - they certainly haven't threatened much.
They've been the disappointment of the RWC for me. I thought they'd stich up France and give England a run.
Me too. There was an Argentinian fan on here for a while really talking them up, had me hoping they'd knock over England and/or France but they've been a real dud. Way worse than previous RWCs.
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Argentina would do well just to try fuck up England a bit now for everyone else benefit.
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The current system has a high chance of a player being sent off in the finals. Imagine if Scott Barrett or SBW incidents happened in a final. The punishment seems too great when the act is not purposefully malicious. It's not like an eye gouge or biting the opponents ear off.
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@Bones said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Tim said in RWC: England v Argentina (Pool C):
@Bones ?
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Disappointed with Owens and his team there.
Argentinian shows poor technique in the tackle striking ball carrier's head - red card.
English player shows poor technique in the charge down striking the kicker's chin - penalty only.
That is what's going to drive people away from rugby.
